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WSL for Development in Windows 10 Is the New Kool-Aid. Still Not Using It?

32 pointsby sirkarthikover 4 years ago

20 comments

haunterover 4 years ago
Wrong usage of the term<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Drinking_the_Kool-Aid" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Drinking_the_Kool-Aid</a><p>&gt;&quot;Drinking the Kool-Aid&quot; is an expression used to refer to a person who believes in a possibly doomed or dangerous idea because of perceived potential high rewards. The phrase often carries a negative connotation. It can also be used ironically or humorously to refer to accepting an idea or changing a preference due to popularity, peer pressure, or persuasion. In recent years it has evolved further to mean extreme dedication to a cause or purpose, so extreme that one would &quot;drink the Kool-Aid&quot; and die for the cause.
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mikaelsouzaover 4 years ago
I feel like most people here don&#x27;t like Windows 10, but for those who like it or even don&#x27;t care about their OS, WSL2 works pretty nicely for many applications.<p>While using Linux on my desktop computer, I had issues with font rendering, low fps animations and firefox&#x2F;chrome stuttering while scrolling through pages.<p>I understand there are probably some (hidden) fixes for these issues, but after countless times trying to solve these, I just gave up.<p>One of the main issues people complain about Windows 10 is about mandatory updates. I know every circumstance is different, but for me, it&#x27;s working well and I have no issues with it. I guess if you&#x27;re someone who is having issues on your current OS but needs to work using UNIX tools, you should give Win10&#x2F;WSL a chance.
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flak48over 4 years ago
I tried my best to use WSL but ran into a never ending list of issues &#x27;this is a known issue with WSL&#x27; or &#x27;known to not work with WSL, try updating to WSL2&#x27; whenever I tried to use fairly common tools. A lot of things like React Native with Expo was still extremely flaky&#x2F;impossible to use.<p>Setting up ConEmu with WSL2 is still painful and WSL&#x2F;WSL2 still freezes randomly.<p>Ultimately I just installed Linux on an external SSD and it worked like a charm. Bye bye WSL
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mastaziover 4 years ago
I develop on a MacBook and on a Windows 10 desktop. (And, in the past, I&#x27;ve used Linux as my daily driver for more than a year, so I&#x27;ve tried all three of them).<p>I have to say that WSL 2 + Windows Terminal + Powershell 7 are a pretty impressive combo, I&#x27;m really enjoying it. I&#x27;ve noticed performance improvements in WSL 2 compared to WSL 1 and I like having a full Linux distro under the hood, you can do things like installing that same package you use in production thanks to Aptitude, as opposed to relying on Homebrew. On Windows Terminal I can have Powershell 7 and WSL tabs side by side, and I&#x27;m able to use tools that I like the starship.rs prompt.
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kesorover 4 years ago
Used it, but then a Windows 10 update made the computer randomly freeze every hour. So F that, went full-blown Linux as my desktop, and its way way better than it used to be.<p>Specifically, using Lutris &amp; Wine to get all my &quot;windows is required&quot; needs.
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sstephantover 4 years ago
Never managed to run VirtualBox, Docker, Android emulator and Hyper-V at the same time. So I stick to MSYS2 and a Centos virtualbox machine that also runs my docker containers.
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johnyzeeover 4 years ago
That&#x27;s not what Kool-Aid means.
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znpyover 4 years ago
Wsl looks like the new embrace-extend-extinguish.<p>And windows as a desktop is just awful... So much telemetry and nonsense... unbearable.
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tannhaeuserover 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve got Windows running on the primary hd in a classic duel-boot (sic!) setup, but I&#x27;m afraid to boot into Windows and check out WSL2 now that I&#x27;ve heard Windows has a habit of nuking other OSes&#x2F;partitions as part of its frequent (ie all the time) updates.
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sippndippover 4 years ago
I wonder I&#x27;ve done almost the same writeup (a little more detailed if you want to do machine learning) - and no one cared: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24197884" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24197884</a><p>This one here is frontpage HN :-)<p>Feel free to look at my post as well:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;9elements.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;developing-a-week-on-windows-with-wsl2&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;9elements.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;developing-a-week-on-windows-with...</a>
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Jonnaxover 4 years ago
Is zsh better than bash? Like I heard OSX switched because they couldn&#x27;t use new versions due to licencing.<p>But for a linux user, what are the advantages? Also does it run bash scripts?
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ramonover 4 years ago
Actually there’s 2 issues I see. 1) Win10 only with SSD, if not forget WSL2. 2) WSL2 had its bugs I was unable to use it then I had to do a cleanup in the Windows cached folders of older connections never again I had issues. It’s something they’re evolving and fixing I like it and is stable but Microsoft need to make sure to advertise this as in beta product with the VS Code plugin.
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baqover 4 years ago
WSL2 is amazing. Pro tip: NFS works. VS Code has a native wsl remote which is great.<p>Just don’t use nfs in fstab, it’ll lock up the startup.
gpvosover 4 years ago
No, I&#x27;m still not using it because my Thinkpad (X1 Extreme 2nd) still doesn&#x27;t offer the Windows 10 2004 update for installation, so I don&#x27;t have WSL2, only WSL1. Does anyone here know what&#x27;s up with that?
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mehrdadnover 4 years ago
VirtualBox performance is awful with Hyper-V, so no, still not using it...
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endori97over 4 years ago
Finally get ssh&#x2F;scp without hassle. Recommend using it in hyper (hyper.is) so you get tabs.
Havocover 4 years ago
WSL2 + vscode remote do not play nice in my experience. That pretty much killed the idea for me
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fit2ruleover 4 years ago
No. It has been far more hassle than its worth. After trying for 6 months to make WSL a part of my development environment, I&#x27;ve given up, wiped Windows, and put a proper Linux distro back on the machine.<p>The whole WSL thing is a distraction and no sane developer should fall for it. Just run Linux in a VM if you need it - glomming Linux all over Windows is embrace&#x2F;extend&#x2F;extinguish levels of stupidity. We should be over that by now.
sakexover 4 years ago
I only use W10 to play games. Would never consider writing code in this crappy OS.
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johnchristopherover 4 years ago
&gt; And Docker Desktop for Windows works well with your WSL2 too. You just can extract the best from everything.<p>Except it&#x27;s Docker Desktop for Windows. Not Docker. Yes, there are&#x2F;were(?) some pretty nasty differences.