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Assange Hearing Day 9

97 pointsby k1mover 4 years ago

5 comments

jkaover 4 years ago
The witness quotes a couple of statements by a former warden of ADX Colorado. In case anyone&#x27;s interested in finding a source for at least one of those, it appears in a New York Times article:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;03&#x2F;29&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;inside-americas-toughest-federal-prison.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;03&#x2F;29&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;inside-americas-...</a><p>(caution: contains some fairly unpleasant reading)<p>Edit &#x2F; clarification: only one of the two quotes appears in the NYT article.
abdullahkhalidsover 4 years ago
Is there anyone who has changed their mind in either direction on Julian Assange&#x27;s actions, guilt, or how different governments are acting, after reading, over the last few years, any of these posts or comments therein?
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scoot_718over 4 years ago
I don&#x27;t believe this blog post paints an unbiased picture.
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martin-tover 4 years ago
A couple observations (as someone who who doesn&#x27;t really follow Assange but stumbled upon this article):<p>- In the UK, publishing the transcript of a public hearing is a crime - &quot;NB this is not a precise transcript. It would be illegal for me to publish a transcript (of a “public” court hearing; fascinating but true).&quot; - IMO something is deeply broken with this, needs to be changed and potentially people who created this system need to be punished (for taking steps to undermine democracy).<p>- Publishing evidence of (war) crimes (this is what Assange did, right?) somehow appears to be a crime. What happened to failure to report a crime? Shouldn&#x27;t instead people not publishing this be punished?<p>- A video call is too high tech for the UK government; also moving to a different courtroom where it would work is impossible because they&#x27;d have to carry over too much paper. They do everything on paper - linking to some other piece of paper means making a physical copy - &quot;Are you saying that I should have repeated his affidavits and all the other evidence in my statements? My statements would have been thousands of pages long.&quot; - Hello, we have the internet and hyperlinks, can we pls use them? To me this feels like the courts are designed as a DoS attack on people&#x27;s attention.<p>- Some US prisons are designed as death penalty without having to go through the legal trouble of saying it out loud - &quot;Suicides in jail are increasing by 18% a year.&quot;<p>- Assange seems like a political prisoner - &quot;Eric Lewis than gave testimony on the change of policy towards prosecuting Assange from the Trump administration.&quot; - Why does a president have this power? What happened to the 3 branches of government? Maybe this is a US thing, seems very broken.<p>- It&#x27;s not even a public process, except in name - &quot;Public access continues to be restricted and major NGOs, including Amnesty, PEN and Reporters Without Borders, continue to be excluded both physically and from watching online.&quot; - Why is everything not recorded and at least transcript posted online by default?
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stuntover 4 years ago
It&#x27;s disappointing that publishing about war-crimes is a bigger deal than doing it for governments. Why even governments have this right in first place? It&#x27;s fundamentally wrong.