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Mentat Wiki: exploring ways to become a better thinker

219 pointsby iceyover 4 years ago

8 comments

arethuzaover 4 years ago
Given the mention of coffee on that page and the title of the site (not to mention other recent events):<p><i>&quot;It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.&quot;</i>
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EForEndeavourover 4 years ago
This page led me to rediscover the name of the digit-to-consonant mnemonic system I absorbed from the 2000-vintage internet (probably Everything2): the Major System [1].<p>Fittingly, I&#x27;d forgotten the name of this technique, though I still sometimes absentmindedly perform it on phone numbers and other digit strings in my environment when I&#x27;m walking around or whatever.<p>Basically, you map the digits 0 through 9 to specific consonants, then come up with vowels to build out phrases that are more memorable than a bunch of boring numbers. I think I stopped practicing the system around the time I started storing phone numbers in cellphones, but reading this has reminded me to pick it back up and see if I can find any practical uses.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ludism.org&#x2F;mentat&#x2F;MajorSystem" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ludism.org&#x2F;mentat&#x2F;MajorSystem</a>
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mistermannover 4 years ago
The Critical Thinking section starts off with:<p>&quot;Thinking logically is something we all can do. We find ourselves so often taken in by fallacious arguments, though. How can we identify them in others&#x27; arguments and our own thought?&quot;<p>Well, I&#x27;d start with &quot;Thinking logically is something we all can do.&quot;<p>If considered as a low-dimensional binary, it&#x27;s true: we all <i>can</i> think logically, in that each individual can probably get <i>at least one answer correct</i> on a logic test. However, <i>stating that fact as</i> &quot;Thinking logically is something we all can do&quot; seems like it might run the risk of people not taking the time to consider the importance (or existence) of the variable: [<i>the degree to which</i> we can <i>consistently</i> think logically], which I think should include the ability to detect when the premises one is working on top of have potential imperfections contained within (such as in this example).<p>Might theories like this offer some explanation for why the rationalist approach seems to not produce the outcomes that one would &quot;logically&quot; expect, or why it&#x27;s not much harder to find incorrect assertions in rationalist communities than it is in less intellectually rigorous communities?<p>It seems to me that sayings like &quot;It Ain’t What You Don’t Know That Gets You Into Trouble. It’s What You Know for Sure That Just Ain’t So.&quot; are not just clever, but they also contain a lot of wisdom.
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reedf1over 4 years ago
Something about this stuff rubs me the wrong way. I&#x27;m not sure what. I never thought the mentats of Dune is something anyone would want to be.
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eindiranover 4 years ago
I visited the page on nootropics (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ludism.org&#x2F;mentat&#x2F;SmartDrug" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ludism.org&#x2F;mentat&#x2F;SmartDrug</a>), and it seems pretty weak (for example, the basically empty table on mechanisms and effects of the major racetam drugs or the &#x27;key resources&#x27; being populated by websites that are completely blocked by my adblocker).<p>Is there a good resource that collates the research on nootropics in one place? I haven&#x27;t looked in a long time, but the last time I looked everything seemed quite bullshitty. You can find articles like eg <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;2854355&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;2854355&#x2F;</a> or <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;2690149&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;2690149&#x2F;</a> or <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;20166767&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;20166767&#x2F;</a> but ideally I would like to have a resource that has done a literature review and describes the evidence (with any caveats like &quot;this only has been demonstrated in rats that were adrenalectomized + have chemically-induced dementia&quot; or &quot;this has never been reproduced&quot;) in a way that doesn&#x27;t seem like it is an advertisement for some shitty piracetam company. This hypothetical resource probably doesn&#x27;t exist, but I figured I&#x27;d ask anyway.
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dangover 4 years ago
If curious see also<p>2015 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10684327" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10684327</a>
jbaberover 4 years ago
Flash anzan practitioners are mentats: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;j0ihbORhTCw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;j0ihbORhTCw</a>
ztcover 4 years ago
When I saw Mentat I immediately thought about Fallout.
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