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Windows XP source code has leaked

485 pointsby a5withtrrsover 4 years ago

40 comments

fimdomeioover 4 years ago
Forgeting about legality for a moment, this is great. Windows XP is probably the greatest operating system if you factor usability and how many people it has reached. It was also from a time where people still did not expect proprietary operating systems to be actively working against you. So it's great that this source will not be forever lost.
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sdfsdfhover 4 years ago
Creator of the torrent posted on reddit about it: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;windowsxp&#x2F;comments&#x2F;iz46du&#x2F;the_windows_xp_source_code_has_been_leaked_on&#x2F;g6gwcpo&#x2F;?utm_source=reddit&amp;utm_medium=web2x&amp;context=3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;windowsxp&#x2F;comments&#x2F;iz46du&#x2F;the_windo...</a>
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noisy_boyover 4 years ago
I still keep my 12 year old legal copy of Windows XP available to be run as a VM via VirtualBox for occasions when I need to try out some Windows&#x2F;DOS stuff - works pretty well :)
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afrcncover 4 years ago
Archive 40 GB Source code leaks 5 GB<p>Conspiracy videos about Bill Gates 35 GB<p>Just to put it in perspective... something the Gizmodo reporter miserably failed to do
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enjoyyourlifeover 4 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;RoninDey&#x2F;status&#x2F;1309275918943301636" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;RoninDey&#x2F;status&#x2F;1309275918943301636</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;anonfiles.com&#x2F;Ffn8u2Yaoa&#x2F;Microsoft_leaked_source_code_archive_2020-09-24_torrent" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;anonfiles.com&#x2F;Ffn8u2Yaoa&#x2F;Microsoft_leaked_source_cod...</a>
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yodsanklaiover 4 years ago
I&#x27;m surprised it hasn&#x27;t leaked before. Microsoft used to give access to their OS source code as part of collaborations with academics (I don&#x27;t know if they still do). I was surprised at how lax they were. It seems they didn&#x27;t care that much.
shmerlover 4 years ago
<i>&gt; And that could be used for good reasons — like people trying to create Windows emulating software on Macs, for example</i><p>Not really. It violates the major principle of clean room reverse engineering. That&#x27;s why Wine developers are strictly avoiding such kind of situations. It can taint the result with legal problems.
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wheresmycraisinover 4 years ago
&gt; Would you believe more than 1% of computers worldwide are still using Windows XP?<p>Probably higher -- XP is still popular in China and supported by third party companies there.
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mindfulhackover 4 years ago
My immediate thought is whether researchers or investigative journalists will find cold hard US government backdoors. This is potentially big.
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swebsover 4 years ago
Here&#x27;s the original source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;boards.4channel.org&#x2F;g&#x2F;thread&#x2F;77879263" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;boards.4channel.org&#x2F;g&#x2F;thread&#x2F;77879263</a><p>And the archive when it gets pruned: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;eg9nw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;eg9nw</a>
DyslexicAtheistover 4 years ago
<i>&quot;That leak is already turning up some interesting stuff, like the NetMeeting user certificate root signing keys.&quot;</i> -- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;gsuberland&#x2F;status&#x2F;1309366364537266177" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;gsuberland&#x2F;status&#x2F;1309366364537266177</a>
voldacarover 4 years ago
Maybe people can take this code, fix a bunch of vulnerabilities, and keep developing a fork ofvit where MS left off Unlikely, but would be cool :)
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metta2uallover 4 years ago
Would be interesting if it can actually be compiled into a usable ISO - possible implications for digital preservation.
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cjones26over 4 years ago
I wonder how this will affect other projects, such as ReactOS and Wine. Exciting.
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zamalekover 4 years ago
Is this all of it, or just portions like many of the other leaks?
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orevover 4 years ago
Taking a cynical view (and how can you not these days), the inclusion of the anti Bill Gates videos could be actual goal here. The source code leak as the headline makes a lot of people interested to download it, and then maybe they watch those videos as well. This could be part of a misinformation campaign aimed at spreading discord around COVID-19. Given the timing and with the upcoming US election, everything needs to be looked at with a critical eye.
postpawlover 4 years ago
Does this mean we’re about to see a wave of new exploits?<p>Or has this code been out there for a while?
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forgot-pwover 4 years ago
How much of the source code is carried over from release to release of Windows and how much is new?
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mysterydipover 4 years ago
I really wish the 3.1 code had leaked, for the benefit of all the retrogaming out there, but the source code dump has a lot of interesting things in it.
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coopsmgoopsover 4 years ago
Gizmodo&#x27;s baking metaphor is really really awful.
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bzb5over 4 years ago
I’m astonished by the amount of people who choose to leak code on 4chan.
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dgellowover 4 years ago
Friendly reminder to use a VPN in the hypothetical case where you would want to download such a leak for _research purpose_.
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blippageover 4 years ago
It was OK, but it was the thin end of the wedge of many things bad about computing since then. I&#x27;m referring to product activation and updates.<p>The internet and operating systems have had an evil feedback loop. To quote from The Outer Limits, 1963: &quot;We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: There is nothing wrong with your television set.&quot;<p>Even supposedly free browsers like Firefox are getting in on the act, pestering the user with updates, and make it difficult to turn off. My dad complains about this constantly.<p>More and more, we see external agents dictating policy.<p>I don&#x27;t think even Richard Stallman originally predicted the true nightmare that computing would be become.
cellularmitosisover 4 years ago
I&#x27;m actually not familiar with the legality of downloading this torrent. Is this considered legal, or is it like stolen goods, where the mere possession is a crime, even lacking evidence of the actual theft?<p>Also, what would be the legality a group of people &quot;maintaining&quot; this code? (developing security patches, etc)
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peterburkimsherover 4 years ago
&quot;You want to update XP so it can run with new hardware? Go for it.&quot; - I would really like to see a version I could use with 2013-14 MacBook Pro&#x2F;Air.<p>I have a MacBook Pro 2007 multi-booting XP, 7, Ubuntu, 10.4, 10.5, 10.6, 10.7, 10.8, 10.9, 10.10, 10.11. Surprisingly, XP is the OS I use most frequently on that laptop, by choice.<p>I got some old HP laptops running XP for the homestay family kids, and have been playing network games and chatting with Escargot MSN.<p>Windows XP still supports 16 bit DOS games. If the Luna theme seems childish, it&#x27;s even more appropriate for young people using computers for the first time. Buttons have icons, which is easier when you&#x27;re 6 and can&#x27;t read quickly.<p>I hope this source code can allow me to boot XP natively on my main laptop, so I don&#x27;t have to carry around another computer just for compatibility.
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Brett_Sover 4 years ago
An interesting question here is how did Microsoft&#x27;s systems get compromised such that their source code was leaked?
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moshimoshirover 4 years ago
On this note, does anyone know where to legally obtain windows xp, hopefully for cheap ? I should note that I&#x27;ve tried at multiple places and none seemed fine so kindly speak from experience. (Or sell me your own, I&#x27;d trust anyone here).
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fractal618over 4 years ago
Great metaphor<p>&quot;Here’s where the metaphor really breaks down but stay with me: imagine if you wanted to break into a house but you didn’t know how. If you knew they had to open their windows when they baked, that would help you sneak in.&quot;
danmgover 4 years ago
If someone can successfully build this jalopy, it would be nice to get a version compiled with optimizations for modern processors (&gt;= core2). Maybe run the address&#x2F;memory sanitizer over it.
akerroover 4 years ago
&gt; Torrent Size : 42.93 GB<p>well, ok. let&#x27;s do this.
kasajianover 4 years ago
It&#x27;s like leaking the plans to the Death Star. Now they&#x27;ll find a vulnerability.
qz2over 4 years ago
This will be interesting. I learned a lot from the mainsoft leak.
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snickmyover 4 years ago
I wonder if there are any consequences from a security standpoint. Does the community of hackers out there believe this will open the opportunity for new exploit?
maxpertover 4 years ago
Good ReactOS developers don’t have to guess anymore. They can use this code as a reference and build their own version better than hasty M$ Devs.
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WorldPeasover 4 years ago
this is going to be great for wine support! cant wait to play postal 2 flawlessly on debian!
hilbert42over 4 years ago
Ha! Shame it wasn’t Win 7 that was released as I still use it on a few of my machines. ;-) Win 7 is the last MS OS that I now permit on my operational hardware. These days, Linux and rooted Google-free Android are my main OSes of choice.<p>Not that I care much nowadays, as XP&#x27;s code release is unlikely to affect me in any practical sense other than for just curiosity to see what goes on beneath its surface.<p>Having experience with almost all Windows releases from the grotty, horrible Windows 1.0 of 1985 to the current Win 10, I&#x27;ve no doubt whatsoever the best and most practical version of the OS for me was Windows 2000, and from the numerous post I&#x27;ve read here many of you agree with me. <i>(Incidentally, to be more precise, Win 3.1 for Workgroups was the first version I used in any practical sense as I found that Win 1.0, 2.0 and even 3.0 were essentially useless.)</i><p>My second choice is Win XP and it&#x27;s still installed on one of my older working machines. In some ways, my next choice would likely be NT4, I had a lot of experience with it but once you got it working, which wasn&#x27;t always easy, it was reasonably solid and straightforward to use. Of course, its major downfall was both the lack of drivers and not having any effective plug and play infrastructure (hence installing it was often messy and time consuming).<p>That said, I doubt this XP source code leak will be a unique event. I fully expect that we will see a great deal more source code becoming available from proprietary Windows-like software in the not-too-distant future—even if these &#x27;leaks&#x27; do not originate from within the software companies in question (as all that will be needed is access to the compiled code).<p>There is little doubt that soon we will see competent deep-leaning AI disassemblers become available that will be able to learn how to disassemble large programs such as Windows with ease whilst simultaneously attributing its disassembled code with meaningful and intelligible code comments and descriptions. Moreover, I see little way that software manufacturers will be able to do to stop this from happening.<p>(I&#x27;d however add a caveat to the above, which is that whilst AI disassemblers will likely be able to eventually disassemble most existing compiled code that&#x27;s been developed for past and present-day processors—from say the earliest 4004, 8085, 8051 and upwards to present-day ones as well as those likely to be developed in the immediate foreseeable future—this may not always remain the case, as it&#x27;s possible that neither critical parts of compiled code nor newer specialized processor instruction sets may be available once manufacturers become aware of the threat.)<p>Furthermore, I&#x27;d wager it&#x27;s likely that eventually AI disassemblers will actually learn on code such as this leaked Win XP. After all, what better sample would be available to a third-party AI developer or researcher to train his or her AI on than the source of the once-famous XP? None I suspect! Moreover, I&#x27;d add that I would be very surprised if companies of the likes of Microsoft and Google aren&#x27;t already training their own AI on disassembling their own code. <i>(After all, they&#x27;ve &#x27;brilliant&#x27; examples to hand and a vested interest in seeing how capable AI is at the task of code disassembly—and moreover they need to know how much lead time they have before this new technology poses a serious threat to their existing products).</i><p>That said, with about a half century&#x27;s worth of existing software compiled from many trillions of lines of code that will be available come the time AI is ready to examine and disassemble it, the snoopers among us will still have great scope! Frankly, I reckon the large-scale application of AI to code disassembly would be a truly great thing: just think of all the bugs and shitty bloated code we&#x27;ll find. Moreover, exposing source code would put manufacturers on notice to improve their products—as not only would their multitudes of bugs and crappy code be exposed but also they wouldn’t be able to hide dirty tricks and corrupt practices as Volkswagen did with its engine emission technology.<p>AI disassemblers may even force many manufacturers to adopt the open-source model for their software development.<p>I&#x27;ve little doubt that over the long term code disassembly by AI will change the current paradigm of software development forever. Unlike its current undisciplined laissez faire approach to product development that encourages sloppy code full of bugs, software development will have to adapt to become a much more professional and rigorous engineering profession such as chemical or civil engineering both of which adhere to much stricter rules and disciplines—and I reckon that will be a good thing.<p>A more rigorous approach to software development is something I&#x27;ve advocated for many years—as I class myself a victim of poor software having lost thousands of hours of my valuable time—right, thousands of hours out of my life that would have otherwise been used to better purpose—resolving problems caused by poor, buggy and dysfunctional software—of which the majority thereof would never have occurred had standards comparable to those of other engineering professions been applied to software development. Given AI technology is of itself a product of software, and that it inevitably will be turned upon its own means of creation, seems to me to be poetic justice.<p>In the interim, I eagerly await revelations and &#x27;meaty&#x27; pronouncements from eager XP code examiners.
rambojazzover 4 years ago
Is this legit?
chosen1111over 4 years ago
Link to code.
swileyover 4 years ago
It might be convenient to have a wine distribution with some of the higher level user space replaced with components windowsXP. I wonder if Visual studio and .net would run better.<p>This is something that the wine devs themselves shouldn&#x27;t do for obvious reasons.
WinterKillsover 4 years ago
Windows XP&#x27;s source code will never be leaked. Don&#x27;t fool yourselves. Microsoft will never disclose the source code of theirs commercial software. It&#x27;s against theirs law.
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