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Pixel 5

162 pointsby petewailesover 4 years ago

47 comments

TheCapnover 4 years ago
From the very initial scroll through things, I&#x27;m not impressed.<p>Now I&#x27;m not a habitual phone upgrader, I tend to replace my phone when the old one wears down or breaks. I bought the Pixel 4 after my Pixel 1 died and was fairly unimpressed overall. Their headlining market points for the Pixel 5 just... aren&#x27;t that interesting.<p>- 5G: Doesn&#x27;t really matter to me. 4G is plenty fast for everyday use and I wouldn&#x27;t try heavy enough streaming off data to even need to increase<p>- Wireless charging: not new<p>- Photos in the dark: not new<p>- Google Assistant: not new... and honestly, kinda crap. I turned off a lot of permissions on my phone and the assistant is virtually useless now. I can&#x27;t give it commands from the lock screen or do even basic things with it unlocked while driving. At this point I&#x27;ll probably root and just put a custom ROM on there because nothing google packaged with the phone is all that useful.<p>The battery is nice, but its also not worth a $800 price tag.<p>I think Google needs to stop chasing the iPhone and go back to the Nexus style of simple+good+affordable. Even the 4a seems like a stronger value proposition imo.<p>EDIT: I just noticed that they brought back the fingerpint unlock on the back? Okay, that is a huge plus; the face unlock is a generally shitty feature usability wise. I was kinda upset when I gave up wireless charging for the Pixel 1 but fell in love with the fingerprint unlock on the back. When I went to Pixel 4 and lost the fingerprint in exchange for Wireless charging I kinda felt like I made a poor choice. Now that they <i>finally</i> combined the two I&#x27;ll give them credit.
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kushalpandyaover 4 years ago
Pixel 5 is everything Pixel 4 should&#x27;ve been, this is essentially a last year&#x27;s phone with processor that&#x27;s also as fast as last year&#x27;s flagship processor. And none of it is bad in any way, $699 of asking price is appropriate.<p>What&#x27;s sad is that Pixel phones even after 5 generations have had at least one tragic flaw which would be a deal breaker for many;<p>- Pixel 1 - Giant bezels<p>- Pixel 2 - OLED burn-in and color issues<p>- Pixel 3 - Gigantic notch<p>- Pixel 4 - Radar which still isn&#x27;t proven to be useful, no ultrawide camera.<p>This is first time that Google made a flagship phone (3a and 4a are still midrange) that doesn&#x27;t have any obvious flaws, so I hope it changes fate of Pixel line for good.
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karim79over 4 years ago
I want this, and not a &gt; 1000 euro phone with no headset, compulsory face recognition, and an AI supercomputer chip with a battery which last half a day.<p>Half of the phones to come out over the last 5 years felt like they were engaged in a useless gimmickry arms race and it&#x27;s a really clever move to be the first to pull the plug on that trend IMO. I for one was not expecting it.<p>Of course, I&#x27;m not going to buy because I have both the 3XL (this phone, best phone ever IMO, indestructible and does the things I need well) and the 4XL which I don&#x27;t use as face unlock was annoying to begin with and now, simply put, useless.<p>In a year where company execs can, for instance, present a watch and with a straight face say &quot;up to 18 hours battery life&quot; I like to think that these guys brought some sanity to the table.<p>They figured out what people care about, refined those elements and dumped the rest of the useless crap. Who actually uses AR apart from a few pokemon players and some other niche uses, who cares about a 5% better camera when all cameras are amazing, and who wants to pay &gt;1000, when phones have reached a reasonable performance level in any category. Which phones of the last three years are too slow?<p>It feels like the grown-up version of the smart phone. One size offering which falls in the sweet spot, amazing camera, fast refresh display, the only biometric that people actually like, and it&#x27;s waterproof.<p>Face recognition is dead in the water, unless the law becomes having QR codes on face masks. That&#x27;s why my pixel 4XL is still new and unused.<p>Additionally, a lot of people have less disposable income in light of recent events.<p>My pixel 3XL is still great so I&#x27;ll hold off for now, but I&#x27;m super happy to see this type of &quot;evolution&quot;. Just my ten cents.
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jwaltonover 4 years ago
I like that the &quot;Compare&quot; tab shows some dimensions in mm and some in inches. The Pixel 5 has a &quot;151 mm&quot; screen, the Pixel 4a (5G) has a &quot;6.2 in&quot; screen.
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haunterover 4 years ago
&gt;We aren’t in your region yet<p>Europe, EU member, not even a non-EU country. Oh well see you next year then. Maybe one day.<p>Edit: a visual guide to Google in 2020 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;DiXEYBF.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;DiXEYBF.png</a>
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animexover 4 years ago
The Pixel 5 (765) has a 16% slower CPU&#x2F;GPU than the Pixel 3 (845). Not going to &quot;upgrade&quot;. My next phone will likely be a OnePlus with a 35% faster CPU, 120Hz screen, more ram, etc etc. The big downside with the OnePlus is the camera. The Pixel camera is the main reason I&#x27;ve stayed.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techrankup.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;smartphone-processors-ranking&#x2F;snapdragon&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techrankup.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;smartphone-processors-ranking&#x2F;...</a>
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TacticalTableover 4 years ago
The phone seems to be largely what everyone expected, though the ability to change lighting during post processing looks like an interesting feature.<p>Honestly, the thing that stood out the most on this page was that they were using Quibi to show off the screen. Paid product placement?
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grok22over 4 years ago
To me, it seems like the 4a 5G is the better phone (slightly larger screen, audio jack!!!) and is cheaper by a couple of 100 dollars. Is the wireless charging and water-proof worth the extra 200?
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knotty66over 4 years ago
In the UK at least - you get a pair of very nice Bose QC 35 IIs (RRP £299) free, if you buy soon.<p>These are selling on eBay for £200 currently, though I&#x27;m sure that price will drop a bit once the market gets flooded.<p>If you do sell at that price though, that brings the price of the phone down to £399, and at that price it is a steal.<p>The Pixel 4a is a great phone for £350, and this brings a bigger battery, faster CPU, 5G, wide-angle lens, 90hz screen, wireless charging, water resistance, and 2GB more memory for an extra £50 if you are able to offload the headphones.
commonerover 4 years ago
PassMark benchmark scores for Pixel phones:<p>Google Pixel &#x2F; XL: 1,893 &#x2F; 2,285<p>Google Pixel 2 &#x2F; 2 XL: 5,556 &#x2F; 5,402<p>Google Pixel 3 &#x2F; 3 XL: 6,359 &#x2F; 6,934<p>Google Pixel 4 &#x2F; 4 XL: 8,722 &#x2F; 8,656<p>Google Pixel 3a &#x2F; 3a XL: 5,334 &#x2F; 5,088<p>Google Pixel 4a: 6,476<p>The following phones use the same Snapdragon 765G SoC as the Pixel 5:<p>Motorola Edge (4-6GB RAM): 6,717<p>OnePlus Nord (8GB &#x2F; 12GB RAM): 7,036 &#x2F; 7,190<p>With 8GB RAM, the Pixel 5 should have a performance score comparable to the Pixel 3 XL.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.androidbenchmark.net&#x2F;device_list.php" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.androidbenchmark.net&#x2F;device_list.php</a>
actuatorover 4 years ago
Huh, it seems like they have gone with Snapdragon 765 instead of 865. Is the price difference between the processors that high?<p>Also, I think Google should commit to four year updates now.
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csoursover 4 years ago
Hmm. Very tempted to trade in my 4 for this, and I&#x27;d much rather have fingerprint unlock than face unlock. It&#x27;s cheaper than the 4 and has a bigger battery. I&#x27;m sure the cameras are at least adequate. Is it worse than the 4 in any way?<p>I don&#x27;t know how to compare the Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 765G with Octa-Core in the Pixel 5 to the Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 855* with Octa-Core in the Pixel 4.<p>I wonder if Google Fi is going to do anything special with 5G? I haven&#x27;t noticed any particular announcements.<p>Edit: pulled the trigger. I&#x27;m so glad they went out of stock on the regular google store, because that reminded me to buy it on the Fi store, where I got better trade in value, and the green one is available.
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fourseventyover 4 years ago
Is that a fingerprint scanner on the back? My Pixel 4 doesn&#x27;t have a fingerprint scanner and its a pain in the ass to use the face unlock (especially now because of covid).
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hourislateover 4 years ago
$699.00 for a mobile with old specs and at least $100 more than something like an Oneplus 8.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gsmarena.com&#x2F;compare.php3?idPhone1=10386&amp;idPhone2=10161&amp;idPhone3=10420" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gsmarena.com&#x2F;compare.php3?idPhone1=10386&amp;idPhone...</a><p>Am I missing something? Will people actually buy this?
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jafloover 4 years ago
&gt; And with Hold for Me, Google Assistant waits on hold for you and lets you know when someone&#x27;s on the line.<p>This seems like a pretty cool feature. I used to be on Android and remember Google making calls on my behalf for reservations, but this feature is done on-device it seems.
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codingdaveover 4 years ago
People get bent out of shape when sites hijack their back button, but I dislike when they hijack my scrollbar and make me scroll through animations.
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_xanderover 4 years ago
What is the current state of performance for 5g chipsets, from Qualcomm and more generally? Do early adopters face (comparably) higher energy consumption and poorer performance (bandwidth, signal, channel access) versus 4g and upcoming 5g chips? I&#x27;ve seen reports that battery life impacts are so significant that most users opt to turn 5g functionality off. Is this still the case?<p>N.B. Pixel 5 has a Qualcomm 765G chipset
chmod775over 4 years ago
I look at these phone announcements nowadays and realize I don&#x27;t care about any of their value propositions.<p>The phones sold 5 or 6 years ago were good enough on any of those metrics by my standards: I look at my 5 year old phone, look at the new ones, and realize that just the hassle of setting a new one up wouldn&#x27;t be worth it.<p>Also they need to scrap all the Google software crap like &quot;Google Assistant&quot; out of their marketing. I have yet to meet someone who would consider anything like that a feature. People expect it to be an annoyance <i>at best</i> - that&#x27;s those who don&#x27;t give a fuck about privacy.
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rzwitserlootover 4 years ago
Headsup, for me (Mainland europe), this instantly redirects to the general google store homepage, which is currently selling the &#x27;nest audio&#x27; product above the fold.<p>To visit, try: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_5?hl=en-US" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;product&#x2F;pixel_5?hl=en-US</a><p>If that doesn&#x27;t work: First open a private browser window, then go to: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;?hl=en-US&amp;regionRedirect=true" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.google.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;?hl=en-US&amp;regionRedirect=true</a><p>then in the menu, pick &#x27;Pixel&#x27;, &#x27;Pixel 5&#x27;.
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martinflackover 4 years ago
Incidentally, for anyone who works in consumer hardware, is there usually any stock in the &quot;I&#x27;ll wait a few months for a later batch in case they fix some hardware problems&quot; approach some people take?
AFlyingBoomover 4 years ago
I think the price is pretty reasonable but the hidden cost of owning this phone is that you&#x27;d be handing Google more data about yourself they could ever collect by other means.
maxioaticover 4 years ago
The simple fact that this has an aluminum body will make me upgrade to it eventually.<p>I&#x27;m super tired of glass backed phones because I have broken every single one I&#x27;ve ever owned.
canada_dryover 4 years ago
How is it that 5 hasn&#x27;t shown up on MKBHD&#x27;s channel??<p>Did he piss off the Pixel team with saying that 4 was &quot;a massive victim of its own hype&quot;?
fomine3over 4 years ago
It&#x27;s not so fun but it looks like great for daily use.<p>* lightweight 151g even though it support 5G and battery is increased.<p>* 8GB of RAM (Pixel 4 was fewer 6GB even high-end)<p>* Fingerprint auth again!<p>Currently I don&#x27;t want 5G because it increases weight by adding antennas and battery capacity but not much value compared to faster 4G. Anyway, 4G high-end devices are no longer released so this is an acceptable device with 5G.
martythemaniakover 4 years ago
Pretty interesting (and disappointing to me) that their top of the line phone has a smaller screen than their mid-range.<p>I wish they&#x27;d make a proper 7&quot; phone. Not 7&quot; because it&#x27;s super elongated (Galaxy S20 Ultra), but like the old Nexus 7, minus all the bezels. Because the Nexus 7 was wider than phones are today, it has like 30% more screen space than a 7&quot; phone.
DocGover 4 years ago
Last two years have been difficult for me when choosing new phone. It&#x27;s been, what am I willing to downgrade? Is it camera options, quality or screen resolution, headphone jack, battery life etc.<p>This year&#x27;s pixels fixed the cameras and fingerprint sensor luckily, but screen sizes and resolutions are downgrade :(<p>Seriously considering note 9 before it&#x27;s too old...
stronglikedanover 4 years ago
I really hope I can move all non-notification icons (and clock) to the right side of the screen, so I can tell when I have a notification at a glance. That was the most frustrating change introduced by the notch for me, and from the screenshots, it looks like it persists even without the notch.
srg0over 4 years ago
So, the non extendable 128 GB is the only storage option in 2020? What else should we expect, battery issues and the model being discontinued in less than 12 months?
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nsrivover 4 years ago
Discrepancy in pricing between North American Pixel 5 and European&#x2F;International Pixel 5 seems to be because the North American version includes mmWave.
meeritaover 4 years ago
I wish the big companies stop doing parallax websites.
krzykover 4 years ago
No Face Unlock :( This was my single reason to swich from Pixel 3 to Pixel 4.<p>And now they removed it and put a CPU&#x2F;GPU that is slower than in Pixel 3.
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dzongaover 4 years ago
seems phones, want to be cameras these days. we&#x27;ve had cameras for 100s of years. yet all phone marketing is about, the phone being a camera, not being good at being a phone. at least with spam screening my pixel 3a does a somewhat okay job at being a phone. and for the camera part, film cameras I still good. I use one that I bought on ebay for 25$.
Taniwhaover 4 years ago
Any idea if there&#x27;s just one model? - or are there a US&#x2F;rest of the world LTE variants like previous pixels?
antirezover 4 years ago
Finally a big battery in a high end phone.
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me_me_meover 4 years ago
I was holding out for the Pixel 5 to be released.<p>Its a huge disappointment. I ended up buying my first choice Oneplus Nord.
ur-whaleover 4 years ago
As usual, the site only works for US IPs
mgraczykover 4 years ago
The designers of this page must be using iPhones, because my Pixel 4XL stutters and crawls through the scrolljacked animations.<p>That and the 3 popups makes me wonder, who is this built for??
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_emacsomancer_over 4 years ago
128Gb storage &amp; no sdcard slot?
aeriqueover 4 years ago
But does it run SailfishOS?
Stevvoover 4 years ago
The site is very sluggish for me when scrolling through the animations on a mid-range Android device
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nikolayover 4 years ago
So underspec&#x27;d that it hurts...
Hamukoover 4 years ago
Just links to the front page of the Google Store.
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lmilcinover 4 years ago
My initial thought: somebody went to town with that scroll.<p>I mean, well prepared marketing page should cause me to think about the product, hopefully favorably, not about completely pointless misuse of scrollbar that some web designer with a huge workstation probably could run fluidly.
decebalus1over 4 years ago
who the hell wrote this copy? The writers of Idiocracy? What&#x27;s with all the empty naive bombastic language?<p>&#x27;The ultimate&#x27;, &#x27;super fast&#x27;, &#x27;hyperspeed&#x27;, &#x27;Extreme Battery Saver&#x27;, &#x27;Superfast downloads&#x27;, &#x27;Ultrasmooth streaming&#x27;, &#x27; superfast signal&#x27;, &#x27;ultrawide lens&#x27;, &#x27;jaw-dropping&#x27;, &#x27;super-smooth panning&#x27;.<p>They should finish with &#x27;If you don&#x27;t buy it, fuck you!&#x27;
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kevindeasisover 4 years ago
Please take off the parallax, its really painful to use.<p>I would love to switch from ios to android. I actually want to move back to an android device. My dilemma is, i want an apple credit card (or something similar) and better cameras compared to apple
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ashishbover 4 years ago
So Pixel 5 came after 6P. Google&#x27;s naming remains confusing.
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j4nt4bover 4 years ago
Just when the world needed more solipsism, distraction, anxiety, surveillance, and mindless entertainment...