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Purism's AweSIM – monthly plan for Librem5 including unlimited data

179 pointsby krimeoover 4 years ago

22 comments

obennover 4 years ago
The premise of essentially proxying customers into a major carrier in aggregate to preserve privacy is an interesting one.<p>I use such a service for home internet in Ottawa, Canada (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ncf.ca" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ncf.ca</a>) and it’s been working great - with much better customer service.
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pixxelover 4 years ago
$99 a month. I had to read the page twice to check that the phone itself is included. It’s not.
jdillaaaover 4 years ago
As a few others have pointed out I&#x27;m not sure I buy the privacy argument here (although there is very little to go on on the linked page..)<p>Having your phone radio on at all (even without a SIM, e.g. E911 calls) is inherently privacy violating. If you must have connectivity on the go, any prepaid SIM + always on VPN will do the trick. Use Twilio if you want multiple numbers.<p>$99&#x2F;mo is ludicrous, even if this actually works, which I have doubts about given the history of purism.
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compsciphdover 4 years ago
we pay anywhere between $64-$80 a month (depending how many lines use over 2GB of data) for 3 lines of service on t-mobile that are unlimited all 3 ways (with the normal deprioritization that probably happens with this as well if going over 50GB a month, which we don&#x27;t).<p>basically, I don&#x27;t buy the significant value in their privacy mode (perhaps it has value to others, but not so much to me). I can see the value in supporting the development of the phone, but its a very significant delta in cost.
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itakeover 4 years ago
&gt; unlimited service<p>&quot;limited to United States&quot;<p>I hate it when marketers say one thing, but the contract says the exact opposite.
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bubblethinkover 4 years ago
Is there anything more to it than a bit of billing indirection ? Hard to see any privacy benefits of that. How is it better than buying a prepaid sim ?
jdofazover 4 years ago
They don&#x27;t provide enough information on that page to justify the price IMHO.
avodonosovover 4 years ago
I don&#x27;t understand, is this offer worldwide? Difficult to imaging this offer is valid for Belarus.<p>Or that only in San Marino (judging by the .sm domain)?
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renewiltordover 4 years ago
How are they doing this? I thought the KYC stuff was necessary for anti-terrorism laws. Am I mistaken and they do that for other reasons?
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joecool1029over 4 years ago
No technical details in the technical details section. Talks about privacy and then uses the least privacy-respecting carrier: AT&amp;T? Ok cool, so the customer bill says Librem... when this gets piped to the NSA with the location data, I&#x27;m sure they can&#x27;t handle putting a name to it. When it gets sold to location brokers with current location information, I&#x27;m sure it won&#x27;t have the unique phone number tied to it. Might as well wave and put a target on your head saying &quot;please de-anonymize me&quot;.<p>No clear definition of where deprioritization limits kick in or how it is to be enforced. Who cares though! The Librem 5 ships with a cat3 LTE modem. That is only <i>just</i> LTE on a single carrier, no LTE Advanced, no carrier aggregation. Forget talking about 5G, we don&#x27;t even have a modem that supports full 4G operating speeds. Stop hyping something you aren&#x27;t close to.<p>Now I get it, I&#x27;m sounding very harsh but understand that this is a company that&#x27;s selling a packaged virtue signal (sorta like Virtu used to) and is consistently over-promising and under-delivering. Making phones is hard, making them in the US is next to impossible. I&#x27;d rather have a piece of working&#x2F;shipping Chinesium (Pinephone) for a fifth of the price and use a sim card paid in cash from a prepaid carrier that I can load whatever to it and isn&#x27;t going to be gone in a year, if I cared to attempt anonymity.
lol768over 4 years ago
99 USD a month?!<p>I pay 18.80 GBP a month for this.
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CKN23-ARINover 4 years ago
&quot;Text, Calls, and Data are unlimited. Peak data users may be compressed to peak average&quot;<p>What does this mean, exactly? At what point does &quot;compression&quot; kick in, and what does &quot;compression&quot; entail?
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microcolonelover 4 years ago
If I could do dual-SIM on one account for 99 bucks and get both AT&amp;T and T-Mobile backends, that would be killer. The only thing more killer than that would be swapping one of them for Verizon.
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hackmiesterover 4 years ago
Not being able to port a number to them is kind of a non-starter for me.
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mindfulhackover 4 years ago
This is probably off-topic but on a very broad level, from a privacy point of view I think it is important to separate &#x27;service provider&#x27; (controlling the <i>instance</i> of your data) from &#x27;software&#x27; developer &#x2F; &#x27;hardware&#x27; maker (controlling the <i>mechanisms</i> of your data privacy), no matter who and how open-source they are.<p>I&#x27;m not sure this instinct applies much to this situation, but it immediately came to mind. Vertical integration is where user privacy (from service providers) starts to erode.<p>Ideally, we should have competing but inter-operable service providers on common platforms and protocols which have nothing to do with the service providers.
svnpennover 4 years ago
Vaporware. Indefinitely on preorder, and $2,000:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shop.puri.sm&#x2F;shop&#x2F;librem-5-usa" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shop.puri.sm&#x2F;shop&#x2F;librem-5-usa</a>
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corser45over 4 years ago
I don&#x27;t get the price. In EU I get that all for ~7$.
obennover 4 years ago
Does this include a lease of a phone unit?
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shuringaiover 4 years ago
pretty sure this&#x27;d be illegal in the EU where all simcard holders are required to tie the card to their ID documents by law, and there&#x27;s a yearly checkup on these data
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gandalfianover 4 years ago
$99 a month?
eugeniubover 4 years ago
Sorry guys, “privacy as a service” should not cost $1,200 per person per year. Hard pass.
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moojacobover 4 years ago
I appreciate free software and privacy, and it&#x27;s cool to have a company that genuinely understands both of those.<p>But it hurts that Purism uses their monopoly over their niche to upcharge customers so much.<p>edit: I&#x27;m wrong. Didn&#x27;t know about their financial woes.
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