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Don't blame Amazon for your lack of redundancy

86 pointsby matellisabout 14 years ago

8 comments

jodrellblankabout 14 years ago
<i>But mostly it’s because the cloud has been so darned reliable.</i><p>Or because the cloud has offered such a good value proposition for cheap and easy scaling with demand.<p>And anyway, it's unfair to rail on people who "should have had a redundancy plan" when the service they pay money for is one with a redundancy service included in it (availability zones) which has unexpectedly also failed.<p><i>Our point stands, for engineers to consider all likely scenarios when building redundancy and not assume anyone – even Amazon – can provide 100.0% uptime. </i><p>Your point appears to be "If you don't have 100% uptime then it's all your fault and you should have planned for it you lazy idiot, everyone should blame you. Also you can never have 100% uptime so people should stop blaming Amazon.". Do you have more of a point than that?
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maratdabout 14 years ago
Cloud = Virtualization. Creating redundancy within the same virtual ecosystem is idiotic, as the article points out. Any hardware or virtualization software failure would throw your redundancy out the window. You need to have your virtual eggs in very different baskets, in different geographical locations, with different providers.
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itswindyabout 14 years ago
Your own servers go down too. And not every site can afford triple redundancy. Sometimes you just stay down for a few hours.
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cabalamatabout 14 years ago
But do blame Amazon for Amazon's lack of redundancy.
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MichaelApprovedabout 14 years ago
All hosts are vulnerable to outages, be it in the cloud, typical shared hosting or self managed racks in a data center.<p>Shit is going to happen with your host. To say it's a problem with the cloud is unfair.
stormentalabout 14 years ago
The zeitgeist is that the cloud equals redundacy yet that's not necessarily the case. You still need to prep for contingencies...
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pippyabout 14 years ago
Isn't the primary benefit in cloud servies reliability? If one of the largest cloud services has an Achilles heel, doesn't that defeat its purpose?<p>I was under the impression if one of the clusters were to be unavailable, the nearest mirror would resume responsibility. This should include distribution services as well.
bilmesweabout 14 years ago
AWS is great for running a redundant cache or backup solution.