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Epic says Apple ‘has no rights to the fruits of Epic’s labor’ in latest filing

31 pointsby illuminatedover 4 years ago

9 comments

supergirlover 4 years ago
It&#x27;s amazing that people will defend apple on this. apple and others should not have gotten away with locking down paid for devices. It&#x27;s ultimately the fault of the consumer. They bought an expensive device but still accept to pay 30% to apple for every app they buy, forever. Yes, ultimately it&#x27;s still the consumer that pays for this (companies will of course factor in the store prices before launching). not to mention the censoring power that apple and google now wield; they can close down any app with &quot;hey, you didn&#x27;t abide by the T&amp;C that we wrote ourselves and keep amending&quot;.<p>also, consoles and phones are not the exactly same story. phones are ubiquitous now. everyone has a phone, not everyone has a PC and very few have consoles. it&#x27;s one thing to get a cut of every transaction and another to get a cut of a few transactions. imagine your ISP is allowed to take a cut of every payment you make.
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LatteLazyover 4 years ago
&quot;Person says thing in court&quot; is almost always a terrible basis for an article. It usually represents lazy &quot;journalism&quot;, the most extreme and one sided version of the case and allows no counterpoint.
gigatexalover 4 years ago
Epic smh. This is the same argument that people use to claim federal income taxes are illegal: it’s the cost of doing business in the USA to pay taxes. To be in the iOS ecosystem you gotta pay the App Store tax.
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supernova87aover 4 years ago
I wholeheartedly agree! And by that same token, I gladly await Epic refunding all of my payments, since they shouldn&#x27;t take the fruits of <i>my</i> labor just to keep using their software.<p>I am starting to regard Epic&#x27;s legal team with the same kind of respect I have for political campaign spokespeople.
wmfover 4 years ago
It&#x27;s easy to come up with such arguments but it&#x27;s just as easy to come up with equal and opposite arguments like Epic has no right to run anything on iOS except by Apple&#x27;s permission.
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viburnumover 4 years ago
Not sure the labor theory of value is a legal argument, but it would set quite the precedent.
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zenincognitoover 4 years ago
Going to fall on its head. Apple isnt asking for fruits of their labour but charging from device abuse, management of store and general device health.
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sjg007over 4 years ago
App stores are going to get hit with anti-trust just wait. What we really need are freedom to tinker laws that allow software install.
cikover 4 years ago
There&#x27;s a reality that Epic doesn&#x27;t have to like, no matter how bizarre. Apple is not the only gatekeeper of an App Store for iOS. Apple is the gatekeeper of the only certified App Store on iOS, that allows users to run on their fully warrantied device. Users can always choose to try to jailbreak and install Cydia, and Epic could release their games there.
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