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Ask HN: Do you think you're smarter than your boss?

4 pointsby therockspushover 4 years ago
In the land(SV) of too many chefs and player-coaches, I&#x27;ve seen the watering down of titles. VPs with a team of 1, directors of none.<p>When your boss is a VP with 5 people, including yourself, under them do you covet that role? Do you see something different for yourself?

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Jemaclusover 4 years ago
I think my boss is a VP with 5 people, including myself, under him. I do covet his role. I&#x27;m not sure what the &quot;something different&quot; you are referring to might be, but I&#x27;m going to assume it&#x27;s <i>his</i> role.<p>To answer the top-line question: my boss is one of the smartest people I know. I disagree with some of his decisions. He&#x27;s made some mistakes, including what I think was a huge one today. But he&#x27;s super super smart.<p>Your title question and the question in your description are conflating intelligence with title. You don&#x27;t need a super intelligent person to be VP. You just need someone with, to quote Liam Neeson, a particular set of skills. You can be the smartest person in the world, but with no experience, you probably won&#x27;t be a good VP. There&#x27;s a set of skills good VPs have that aren&#x27;t borne of intellect but of experience and the passage of time.<p>Is my boss smarter than I? I&#x27;m not sure. I&#x27;d probably say yes; he&#x27;d probably disagree.<p>Do I think I can do my boss&#x27;s job? Absolutely. I can certainly take his job, and if something were to happen to him, I&#x27;m certain I&#x27;d be a top contender for his position. But even as I think my boss and I are probably on an even playing field when it comes to intelligence, he has experience and time on his side... so while I could certainly see myself doing his job, it would be quite some time before I&#x27;d be able to do it as well as he.
throwaway568over 4 years ago
Intelligence isn&#x27;t the only requirement for any particular role.<p>e.g., S., finance, is asking questions about the team&#x27;s progress as if we were doing waterfall, unhappy with missed dates, when our team was agile.<p>Our director, quite confidently, says to us: &quot;There&#x27;s a disconnect here, I&#x27;ll book in 15 minutes with S. and get it fixed up.&quot;, as if it&#x27;s not a big issue. She does not do programming at all.<p>On the other hand, my ability to implement a red-black tree on the whiteboard would not have helped with this situation.<p>Previously I&#x27;ve been in startups where the managing director, who was a PhD, and much smarter than I was, who could not resolve the smallest of conflicts safely.
matt_sover 4 years ago
Moving into a management track means using different skills than just software development. It also doesn&#x27;t mean you are smarter or better than everyone, it&#x27;s a different role. You likely get to write performance reviews, stare at stacks of resumes, look at Excel files for budgets, approve expense reports, etc. Sure you might be a final decision maker on some tech things but if your style is to dictate those decisions w&#x2F;o team collaboration you probably won&#x27;t last long.<p>When you work at a Fortune 500 company there are scores of VP&#x27;s, Directors, Senior VP, etc. Those titles don&#x27;t mean much, but your focus on title and coveting it indicates you feel they mean something. Maybe the VP title means something externally at a small company because there are expectations to have corporate sounding titles when introductions happen with customers or potential acquirers?<p>If you truly covet the VP title, explore why you might want that. Explore what your career might be like moving into management&#x2F;leadership vs. staying in the technical arena.
mtberatworkover 4 years ago
&gt; ...I&#x27;ve seen the watering down of titles. VPs with a team of 1, directors of none.<p>Just for perspective, this happens in every industry, not just SV. Often times the only way to give a person a raise and get it approved by accounting is to &quot;promote&quot; them into a higher pay scale associated with the title.