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RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

271 pointsby Cantbekhanover 4 years ago

25 comments

black_puppydogover 4 years ago
I read an interview with Gottfrid Warg (pirate bay co-founder) some years back. Can&#x27;t find it now...<p>What stuck with me was his disappointment that the wider torrent community simply relied on the pirate bay always making a return. There was no real effort to go beyond resilient hosting. No producing facts by superior technology. It was just a bunch of copy-cats playing whac-a-mole with the copyright industry. To paraphrase: &quot;I went to jail for this stuff, and you don&#x27;t even care enough about it to follow up on it in earnest?&quot; At least that&#x27;s how it read to me. As I said, it&#x27;s been a while.<p>Hosting torrent platforms and such on namecheap, cloudflare (no really!) and all the other mainstream platforms seems like such an <i>obviously, deeply stupid choice</i>. There&#x27;s only very few projects (that I know of) that are really addressing resilient, organized, curated content dissemination, and they&#x27;re essentially divorced from the pirate scene. Too bad I guess.
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zxcvbn4038over 4 years ago
Let them subpoena, ultimately RIAA is a US entity pursuing civil suits under US laws, no one outside the US should really be worried. Within the US these sites and tools like YouTube-dl are arguably fair use and RIAA knows this, so they will be cautious when pursuing any litigation. It is like the trick the police use - carrying a knife for utility (cutting food, cutting wire, etc) is often not illegal, carrying a knife as a weapon often is, so police will often try to trick people into saying they have a knife for defense so they can treat it as a weapon instead of a tool.
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oriesdanover 4 years ago
Here goes all the privacy-friendly ways to watch Youtube.<p>Well, I guess it&#x27;s a good thing : now we&#x27;ll have to campaign to let content creators know how terrible their choice of platform is.
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submetaover 4 years ago
The RIAA behaves like the powerful in ancient times. But your gut feeling knows exactly when someone is wrong. Just because they refer to some law does not mean their actions are rigt. See „Ius primae noctis“ <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Droit_du_seigneur" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Droit_du_seigneur</a>
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eyeballover 4 years ago
Someone doesn’t like the idea of people being able to save unapproved content before it is scrubbed.
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Buttons840over 4 years ago
Has anyone ever experimented with reversing the analog loop with machine learning?<p>Generating the training data would be easy. Play audio files through a speaker and record the speaker with a microphone. Then you have the original and the analog recording. Train the machine to reverse the process. Now you can grab high quality audio from any source. Same could be done for video, but would require a more elaborate setup.<p>Kind of off topic, but I hate the idea of not being able to own any actual copies of media in the future.<p>Also, I&#x27;ve made it part of my moral code, nearly a religion of mine, to see all advertisements as a reminder I maybe should be doing something else. Since this is my rant, I&#x27;ll add that to the pile.
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benologistover 4 years ago
For months now I have been using youtube-dl to preserve all the concerts and workout videos I like on YouTube because I don&#x27;t expect this content to remain available and unencumbered. My original plan was to store just the IDs on GitHub so I could recreate the video libraries without backing up the video files, but already some of the concerts have been removed. I expect the exercise videos will be hidden behind a subscription at some point since they provide utility.
varispeedover 4 years ago
There is hope that one of the fresh billionaires takes an axe at the RIAA and other abusive organisations and brings hope to all artists that are being exploited by labels, lawyers and organisations like RIAA.
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zineketterover 4 years ago
Archive link (if your workplace has blocked this for piracy):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20201029112247&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;torrentfreak.com&#x2F;riaa-obtains-subpoenas-targeting-40-youtube-ripping-platforms-pirate-sites-201029&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20201029112247&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;torrentfr...</a>
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thrownaway954over 4 years ago
this was inevitable giving the climate switch to streaming services. right now the riaa wants to protect the streaming services at all costs since physical media consumption is decreasing, especially with all the store fronts closing cause of the pandemic.
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ryanmarshover 4 years ago
Why now?<p>We&#x27;re less than a week from a hotly contested election and social media is an absolute battle ground.<p>Someone with more PR experience please help me understand why now is the most advantageous moment for the RIAA to launch these strikes. I&#x27;m not saying it&#x27;s a bad time necessarily, but this clearly could have been done months (years) ago.
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bdcravensover 4 years ago
Why is RIAA acting like it&#x27;s 2002 all of a sudden?
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hykoover 4 years ago
I guess ultimately the real solution is not to consume what they&#x27;re producing.
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jugover 4 years ago
I can&#x27;t imagine there being all too much profit lost from people using youtube-dl to grab and avoid paying for copyrighted material... First, it&#x27;s a command line tool. Second, even being well versed in those, I have only found the occasional such clips I wanted to ensure I had preserved. A documentary or two to view later etc.<p>This simply cannot match e.g. the P2P scale...
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533474over 4 years ago
Why are most posts about piracy? If you put your content in youtube, it is there to be downloaded or archived. The platform might not survive the test of time. Torrent sites and legal&#x2F;fair-use tools such as youtube-dl help preserve humanity. How many times were you able to obtain an obscure book only found in 2 libraries around the world? Or a music album from a once popular orchestra, nowehere to be found in retail channels? Or a TV episode archived and never to be broadcasted or lost in a hurricane?...We as Americans have the duty to preserve humanity and by humanity I mean our individual rights. Let law enforcement to prosecute those who profit from copyrighted works. But information dissemination? how can society move forward like this?
Woodiover 4 years ago
IMO thieves need be jailed.<p>But if there will be some place where, for some fee, you can watch all that old movies... Fuck, for years I&#x27;m looking for Toy Story (1) to learn what are that Debian names ! But no... 2, 3 but no 1. Ice age 1 ? Rambo ? THX 1138 ? &lt;- everyone need to see how leftists are naive and what they planning for human genetic modifications.<p>Interesting movies on Netflix and HBOGO ends in like... 2 days of watching ? Why the fuck i need to pay for a whole month ????<p>Movie&#x2F;music industry is double stupid: they do not know how to sell what they already have (century+ amount of movies&#x2F;recordings) and they create such brain-dead organizations like RIAA and many, many others.
BiteCode_devover 4 years ago
Well, the download video helper has still escaped it for now. Good news given how useful it is, but for how long?<p>This is were a decentralized internet would shine, but youtube-dl is already not so friendly to use for the average joe, so I&#x27;m not expecting him to be able to browse IFPS any time soon.
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rolphover 4 years ago
at some point the video is decrypted and exists on your machine, in memory. if you raid the cache after you force buffering bcz 4K and narrow bandwidth then you cant help but make a copy to your hard drive or other such non volatile.<p>here is one such approach:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wikihow.com&#x2F;Save-Streaming-Video" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wikihow.com&#x2F;Save-Streaming-Video</a><p>here is my search string just as a knee jerk, but a deliberately crafted string will pop some real gems.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;html.duckduckgo.com&#x2F;html?q=save%20video%20from%20buffer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;html.duckduckgo.com&#x2F;html?q=save%20video%20from%20buf...</a><p>enjoy the safari and have pride in any subsequent craftsmanship that comes from it.
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cwkossover 4 years ago
Society would be so much better off if every IP troll lobbying group fell off the face of the planet.
A_No_Name_Mouseover 4 years ago
If they&#x27;re going after individual sites, could a &#x27;workaround&#x27; be to keep switching domain names with a suffix like the week number? With a redirect on the main site to the site of the week. It would require new takedown notices every week.
squarefootover 4 years ago
Does it then make the use of 1.1.1.1 any dangerous? Not that it reveals access to torrent sites, but resolving one of them like 30 times in a week might send some alerts.
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donmcronaldover 4 years ago
Do mid level YouTube channels care about this? I’d like to hear what the upcoming generation of creators think.
stevens37over 4 years ago
Once (~10-15y ago) I was thinking about a OTP based &quot;2 component glue file sharing solution&quot;. You take a piece of data (audio,video), generate a real random one time pad then make an XOR delete the original and share the 2 random files using any media or network. Then share also the info that this and that files are the 2 component glue.
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spazxover 4 years ago
Of course all this shit happens the same week I bought my first NAS.
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shmerlover 4 years ago
RIAA is a typical troll, someone who got too much power to censor things.