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AI pioneer Geoff Hinton: “Deep learning is going to be able to do everything”

72 pointsby jonathanbgnover 4 years ago

12 comments

cs702over 4 years ago
Hinton qualified that statement by adding, <i>&quot;but I do think there&#x27;s going to have to be quite a few conceptual breakthroughs.&quot;</i> He explicitly conditioned his belief on future conceptual breakthroughs that have not been made yet. Also, his statement is not a prediction; it starts with &quot;I do believe.&quot;<p>Here&#x27;s the full quote, copied verbatim from the article:<p><i>&gt; I do believe deep learning is going to be able to do everything, but I do think there’s going to have to be quite a few conceptual breakthroughs. For example, in 2017 Ashish Vaswani et al. introduced transformers, which derive really good vectors representing word meanings. It was a conceptual breakthrough. It’s now used in almost all the very best natural-language processing. We’re going to need a bunch more breakthroughs like that.</i><p>Please don&#x27;t criticize him or the article without first reading it in full.
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mellosoulsover 4 years ago
<i>Now it’s hard to find anyone who disagrees, he says.</i><p>Either that&#x27;s an accurate claim or representative of a cliqueyness and echo chamber approach to AGI in some quarters.<p>Either way it&#x27;s depressing.
mcguireover 4 years ago
Does this mean we are at the top of another AI hype cycle? Anyone have a pool on when the next AI winter starts?
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JHonakerover 4 years ago
I’m tired of Hinton over promising. It’s not going to do everything and he’s promoting an irresponsible position.<p>Has there really been a huge breakthrough since the initial wave of CNNs? I guess transformers&#x2F;attention, but I don’t consider GPT-3 to solve <i>any</i> problem at all.
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ilakshover 4 years ago
&gt; In particular, some recent work at Google has shown that you can do fine motor control and combine that with language, so that you can open a drawer and take out a block, and the system can tell you in natural language what it’s doing.<p>Does anyone know which paper that was?
6gvONxR4sf7oover 4 years ago
&gt; What do you believe to be your most contrarian view on the future of AI?<p>&gt; Well, my problem is I have these contrarian views and then five years later, they’re mainstream.<p>Has every single one of his contrarian views panned out? What an arrogant quote. This just diminished him in my eyes.
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lootsauceover 4 years ago
If a cyborg were to &quot;do everything&quot; on deep learning would it have a meaningful model of reality or would it simply be behaving as if it did?
mhh__over 4 years ago
I basically buy that DL will be effective, but I think the real innovation will have to be power efficiency e.g. how many GPUs and GBs of ram does GPT-<i>x</i> need?
peteradioover 4 years ago
I wonder what humans will learn about themselves as we create synthetic competitors.
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schonbildover 4 years ago
Sure, if &quot;everything&quot; includes making humanly mistakes as well!
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giardiniover 4 years ago
Hinton wants a Nobel prize awarded while his name is still in the ring!8-)) But that will likely happen a generation or two after Hinton is gone.
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phenkdoover 4 years ago
I am very skeptical of the current approaches (supervised learning) making the quantum leaps being promised. This needs a paradigm shift of weakly-supervised learning and fine-tuning for specific tasks (a la human learning).
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