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Update on MuseScore 3.6 and 4.0

151 pointsby crispinhover 4 years ago

13 comments

ohaziover 4 years ago
For those out of the loop:<p>Tantacrul is a composer who put together some <i>hilariously</i> scathing UI&#x2F;UX video reviews for some popular composing software tools out there, including MuseScore [1] [2] [3]. The team developing MuseScore then brought him on as head of design.<p>[1] Sibelius: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=dKx1wnXClcI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=dKx1wnXClcI</a><p>[2] MuseScore: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=4hZxo96x48A" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=4hZxo96x48A</a><p>[3] Dorico: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=S-3wEC6Fj_8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=S-3wEC6Fj_8</a>
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Frauber84over 4 years ago
As someone who has been using MuseScore daily for the past decade in my teaching, my deepest respect to the developers and community, you have built a piece of software with real impact that challenges proprietary (and very expensive) alternatives. Kudos to everyone involved in this life-changing project.<p>Looking ahead, it would be rad if some form of real-time collab could happen with MuseScore, either with the software or MuseScore.com embed.
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sam_goodyover 4 years ago
Firstly, thank you MuseScore team. It has made a world of a difference to me - I push for low income students to learn music, and offering a free quality program is invaluable.<p>Does anyone know any way to export to&#x2F;from LilyPond?<p>MuseScore is miles ahead of things like Frescobaldi with everything it does, but I really would like to compose Lily-style, and all my attempts to use the two together have not been successful (there was a plugin that was discontinued, etc).<p>As an aside, the typical user of Lily is more likely a programmer, so it would widen your base of possible contributors if you added import support
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fdejover 4 years ago
Ah, too bad that the sequencer mode is being delayed.<p>For about 20 years now, I&#x27;m still holding my breath for a MIDI sequencer that runs on Linux and has all the functionality and user-friendliness of Cakewalk 3 (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vgmpf.com&#x2F;Wiki&#x2F;images&#x2F;6&#x2F;63&#x2F;Player_-_Cakewalk_Professional_v3.01_For_Windows.png" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vgmpf.com&#x2F;Wiki&#x2F;images&#x2F;6&#x2F;63&#x2F;Player_-_Cakewalk_Prof...</a>).<p>Sekaiju (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openmidiproject.osdn.jp&#x2F;index_en.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openmidiproject.osdn.jp&#x2F;index_en.html</a>) is open source and is 95% there in terms of the user interface, but alas it&#x27;s Windows only and I&#x27;m not aware of any effort to make a Linux port. (Don&#x27;t suggest Wine, because trying to get MIDI to work with that is a nightmare. A nice thing about the current MuseScore is that MIDI playback works out of the box.)
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khazhouxover 4 years ago
&gt; After discussing these points at length, we decided to do the following: Rearchitect the application from the ground up to vastly increase our development speed in future (more about this in the next part)<p>Typically this is a death knell for a software project -- however well-reasoned, well-intentioned, and well-planned.
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robin_realaover 4 years ago
I started using MuseScore not too long ago to help transcribe music scores from old books so that they could be rendered as SVGs in ePub editions. I was pretty blown away by not only how fully featured it was, but also how plain nice it was to use. So thanks to the team, it’s really appreciated.
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javchzover 4 years ago
I went from guitar pro to muses core in order to support FOSS. And despite missing some features, I&#x27;m happy with the software, and this new version makes me excited. Thanks to the team, their work it&#x27;s awesome.
albutrover 4 years ago
I just recently learned about Dorico&#x27;s VST support and was considering trying it out as an alternative to the workflow I&#x27;m using now (compose in musescore, export to logic and then key in dynamics + velocities). It seems really useful to have everything &quot;just work&quot; based on articulation and dynamics markings.<p>Really looking forward to musescore&#x27;s VST support, hopefully it can get to a similar point!
IshKebabover 4 years ago
I think they will regret switching to QML. It isn&#x27;t nearly as robust as QtWidgets and doesn&#x27;t scale to large apps like this very well (I&#x27;m not actually aware of any large apps that use QML).<p>If it were me I would wait until Qt 6 is released. The Qt developers are making some changes to QML that sound like they have learned at least some lessons (e.g. adding strong typing, not relying on Javascript).
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bambaxover 4 years ago
I love MuseScore for engraving. I look forward the 3.6 release, the listed improvements sound really great.<p>Why should MuseScore also be a sequencer, or support VSTs. Those are two very different family of functionalities; making a good sequencer is hard -- as they apparently found out. And there are many of them out there already, many of them excellent.<p>It&#x27;s also possible to output MIDI in realtime from MuseScore and use a sequencer &#x2F; VST host at the other end, with an internal MIDI router in between. I just tested this now and it works well (Windows &#x2F; MuseScore 3.5 &#x2F; loopMIDI &#x2F; Reaper).
nchelluriover 4 years ago
(Very amateur musician here.)<p>I&#x27;ve been writing my scores on Noteflight. Does MuseScore do the same and is it a better alternative? Are the two compatible at all?<p>Thanks, hope someone has some thoughts.
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marcan_42over 4 years ago
Just a reminder that, confusingly, there are two MuseScores.<p>MuseScore the open source music notation app, hosted at musescore.org, is what this is about. It&#x27;s an excellent notation app, and getting better, especially lately with Tantacrul&#x27;s help.<p>MuseScore.com the online sheet music repository is related to the former, but was sold to Ultimate Guitar. They have since taken a very anti-community copyright approach, where they lock all score downloads by default. You need an account to be able to download anything, and you need a pro subscription to be able to download anything that isn&#x27;t either &quot;original&quot; or &quot;based on a public-domain work&quot;. They claim this is in order to pay royalties to rights holders (which in practice means a few large multinational sheet music publishers), but do this for <i>every</i> score, regardless of whether the composers are signed to such companies at all. They have no provision for creative commons and other similarly licensed <i>songs</i> (not scores, they do have that) - everything falls into either original&#x2F;PD, or collecting and sending Pro fees to collection agencies that have no right to such royalties. Want to publish a score for an indie song? Tough luck, people will have to pay money to download it, and none of that money will go to the artist. All of the user-uploaded back catalog of scores, which was previously freely available, was recategorized as non-free after this change and thus requiring a Pro subscription to download, except for known public domain source songs (i.e. mostly classical&#x2F;old music, and only inconsistently at that). This now puts hundreds of thousands of songs behind a paywall regardless of whether they should be or not.<p>MuseScore.com have recently taken to sending vague and rather unprofessional DMCA-style threats to developers of scripts that allow you to bypass those download restrictions:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Xmader&#x2F;musescore-downloader&#x2F;issues&#x2F;5" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Xmader&#x2F;musescore-downloader&#x2F;issues&#x2F;5</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Xmader&#x2F;musescore-downloader&#x2F;issues&#x2F;42" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;Xmader&#x2F;musescore-downloader&#x2F;issues&#x2F;42</a><p>Claims like &quot;All not Public domain content on musescore.com is licensed by major music publishers (Alfred, EMI, Sony, etc.). &quot; are obviously nonsense; I used to have a couple scores that were arrangements of indie game music with CC-like licensing that allows this kind of usage on there, but I took everything down because I do not want to support such policies and I consider it useless if people have to pay to download my score and Sony or Alfred Music get the money, not the actual composer.<p>When I asked about this on the above GitHub threads, they claimed the rights holders forbid them from allowing creative-commons and similarly freely licensed songs on the same site, other than PD, which also is clearly nonsense (they already have CC options for scores, just not for songs those scores are based on, it doesn&#x27;t make any sense for the latter to be forbidden).
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enriqutoover 4 years ago
It&#x27;s almost funny how history stubbornly likes to repeat itself.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joelonsoftware.com&#x2F;2000&#x2F;04&#x2F;06&#x2F;things-you-should-never-do-part-i&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joelonsoftware.com&#x2F;2000&#x2F;04&#x2F;06&#x2F;things-you-should-...</a>
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