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DigitalOcean "pulled the rug out from under" Ryan Bates (RailsCasts)

75 pointsby waffle_ssover 4 years ago

7 comments

jo6gwbover 4 years ago
Digital Ocean Killed Our Company <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20064169" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20064169</a>
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robrobrobrobover 4 years ago
That&#x27;s sad. It was your recommendation that led my company to be a customer of DO for more than 5 years.<p>I&#x27;m sure they&#x27;ve gotten 10x more value from your recommendation than they realise, and it fueled their early growth.
rbatesover 4 years ago
Here are the details for those interested:<p>I received an automated email September 2 stating charges were accumulating on my sponsored DigitalOcean account. This has happened in the past so I assumed it was a fault due to changes in their billing system.<p>I couldn&#x27;t find a contact that still worked at the company, so I opened a support ticket on September 5 asking if they were willing to continue sponsorship. I received a response the same day stating they informed the CSM team and one would reach out to me.<p>I didn&#x27;t receive a response from that team until October 6. In the meantime I received constant automated emails stating my account was overdue. I emailed them a couple times concerned about this and they stated &quot;Please don’t worry about immediate account suspension.&quot;<p>The reason they gave for stopping sponsorship was &quot;DigitalOcean recently stopped providing a small group of accounts free access but given RailsCasts history with us, I am requesting an exception be made.&quot;<p>We setup a Google hangout meeting on October 15 to discuss renewal and concluded I may qualify for an annual credit under their open source program. I told them I would need a little time to evaluate the requirements of the app since it doesn&#x27;t receive as much traffic as it used to.<p>On October 21 at 4 AM my account was suspended automatically due to overdue payment. When I woke up and saw this I emailed them and they reactivated my account an hour later and moved the deadline to Nov 10.<p>After further discussions we concluded a $360 credit would work for the next year at a new droplet size. I asked &quot;Is it possible to start the $360 credit on November 10 and clear the existing balance at that time? Currently it says my account owes $654, not certain where that number came from.&quot;<p>They responded &quot;I will reach out to our billing team about this. It looks like a majority of the $654 due is what your account has accrued over time. I will work to clear the balance from before the free status was turned off.&quot;<p>I responded &quot;Considering there was no warning that the free status would be turned off, is it possible to clear the balance after I&#x27;ve transitioned to the smaller droplet (by November 10)? There&#x27;s still a balance for this month which will be around $80.&quot;<p>They responded &quot;It looks like communication was sent out from DO on 7&#x2F;17 regarding Railscast&#x27;s free account status being turned off on 9&#x2F;1.&quot;<p>I could find no record of that email in my Gmail account. I asked for a copy of the email and they said &quot;It looks like the email was sent from success@info.digitalocean.com to your RailsCast email on 7&#x2F;17&#x2F;2020. If you have unsubscribed from DigitalOcean emails in the past, this could explain why you did not receive the communication.&quot;<p>Apparently the email was sent through their promotional channels which I am unsubscribed from. I was receiving other emails regarding billing but never received a notice of the sponsorship ending.<p>They also stated &quot;$558.68 out of the $654.68 was from the usage your account consumed before being set free in 2014. In order to avoid suspension, the balance will need to be paid off by 11&#x2F;10.&quot;<p>I gave evidence that the $558.68 was a fault of their invoicing system and my account was free from the beginning. In fact, I have an email from a DigitalOcean co-founder stating my account would be setup with &quot;a lifetime of credits&quot;. I can understand if they didn&#x27;t want to be committed to this statement from 8 years ago, but at least be up front about it and don&#x27;t charge me for something I never agreed to.<p>They stated &quot;As an act of good faith, I will work with finance to provide a credit towards the balance ($558.68) you previously owed before having your account marked free.&quot;<p>A few days later the deadline was approaching. I asked for an update on this but did not receive any response. By this time my total account balance showed $749.62 which it appeared I needed to pay before Nov 10 in order to avoid the site going down again. That weekend I decided to move the app over to Linode.<p>On November 9 I received an email from them stating they cleared the $558.68 but &quot;You will still need to pay for your September and October consumption ($190.94). If you do not pay by tomorrow, you run the risk of your account be suspended and losing access to your data.&quot;<p>I was not happy with this result. The $190.94 was largely due to me waiting on them during the discussions. Each response from them would take a few days up to a week to get back. I don&#x27;t feel right about promoting a business which charges someone for something they never agreed to.<p>This is when I tweeted that railscasts.com has moved over to Linode. Later that day I received an automated email from DigitalOcean granting my account $1,150.00 credit. I emailed this morning asking about this but haven&#x27;t heard back yet. While I appreciate the gesture, I have no plans to be sponsored by DigitalOcean again.
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undecisiveover 4 years ago
Funnily enough, caught this last week <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24979294" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=24979294</a> - made me reconsider the value I&#x27;m getting from DO given what I can get as Hetzner&#x27;s &quot;auction&quot; servers for the same money (or less).<p>Generally speaking, I have nothing but respect for Digital Ocean usually. What they provide is competitive, and have had very few problems. But was umming and ahhing about using some (rare) free time next week to test out that jump - this might just have galvanized me.
ironmagmaover 4 years ago
The fact you can even have something like this happen says a very bad thing about the company. I will be sure to migrate all my droplets soon, that’s for certain.
ChrisArchitectover 4 years ago
this is&#x2F;was about a sponsorship deal or something related?
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ChrisArchitectover 4 years ago
funny they&#x27;re hosting their conference today