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Reverse engineering a forgotten 1970s Intel dual core beast: 8271, a new ISA

169 pointsby scarybeastover 4 years ago

9 comments

ajrossover 4 years ago
I love these die shot RE walkthroughs. This is such a weird choice though; almost no one used this chip for production hardware. The WD 17xx series was the king of floppy controllers in the 70&#x27;s and early 80&#x27;s (well, if you ignore Woz&#x27;s masterpiece, which was discrete logic).<p>Seems like if you&#x27;re going to reverse an obscure chip, something with a more exotic application would have been more fun?
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lathiatover 4 years ago
The floppy drive controller chip costing and being better than the main CPU reminds me of some of my arduino projects.<p>For example I was driving a GSM Modem (over serial) which contained a comparatively advanced ARM SoC driving it.. from an AT Mega 8-bit micro that I was programming. It was great educationally, but kindof hilarious :)
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userbinatorover 4 years ago
A lot of special-purpose ICs are actually general-purpose processors with a mask ROM (or sometimes EEPROM, with interesting consequences), since writing the &quot;firmware&quot; for different functionality is easier than doing a whole &quot;hard-coded&quot; chip design --- the various USB-to-X adapters are one common example of this.
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__dover 4 years ago
The decision to use this chip (vs the WD) in the BBC Micro made me wonder if there were other obvious-in-hindsight bad&#x2F;weird&#x2F;hackish choices in classic computer design?<p>The PC-AT&#x27;s use of the keyboard controller to control A20 and CPU reset comes to mind.<p>Any others?
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rbanffyover 4 years ago
My guess is that, at some point, a manager at Acorn asked which disk controller would the engineers recommend and they, obviously joking, said &quot;8271&quot;.<p>When they realized what they had done, it was too late.
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intricatedetailover 4 years ago
Is there a tech available currently to decap and photo chips at home? For example reverse engineering old PAL chips?
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dborehamover 4 years ago
The D765 was a D765B, probably a shrunk version, hence the different die size.
mrlonglongover 4 years ago
Got one of these in my Beeb, never knew it was a dual core monster. No bloody wonder they were so expensive back in the day.
jlarcombeover 4 years ago
Incredible stuff!