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How to Do What You Want: Akrasia and Self-Binding (2011)

65 pointsby yarinrover 4 years ago

11 comments

lambdaloopover 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve tried beeminder and other self-binding contracts, but after some time something in my life (moving, breakup, etc) pops up and I just can&#x27;t fulfill the goal for 1-2 weeks. After I let it slip for a bit, I find it harder to come back and it feels that the contract loses some meaning.<p>For any system I&#x27;ve tried, it consistently falls after 3-4 months of use (this is beeminder, spreadsheets, text files, among others).<p>Does anyone have suggestions for how to keep going after a setback?
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Sodawareover 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve been using Beeminder for 8 years[1], and it is no exaggeration to say it has massively changed my life. It helped me run a marathon, procrastinate less, write more words, workout regularly, and a bunch of other stuff.<p>It&#x27;s weird and it&#x27;s not for everyone, but if it works for you then go for it. I&#x27;m not ashamed that I need to wear corrective lenses, and I&#x27;m not ashamed that I needed help to get my shit together.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.philnewton.net&#x2F;blog&#x2F;beeminding-8-years&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.philnewton.net&#x2F;blog&#x2F;beeminding-8-years&#x2F;</a>
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rektideover 4 years ago
&gt; Industry. Lose no time; be always employ&#x27;d in something useful; cut off all unnecessary actions.[1]<p>One of the projects I&#x27;ve long procrastinated on is building a Benjamin Franklin 13 Virtues trackers, to help log&#x2F;quantify myself regularly, &amp; hopefully see&#x2F;spot procrastination&#x2F;low-points, &amp; apply myself better. The commitment device of having a window in to the past.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thirteenvirtues.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thirteenvirtues.com&#x2F;</a>
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reagleover 4 years ago
I wrote about this here <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackinglife.mitpress.mit.edu&#x2F;pub&#x2F;94tu3rlx&#x2F;release&#x2F;2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hackinglife.mitpress.mit.edu&#x2F;pub&#x2F;94tu3rlx&#x2F;release&#x2F;2</a>
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dreevesover 4 years ago
Awww, it&#x27;s the inaugural post on the Beeminder blog! I&#x27;d be delighted to answer questions about this.<p>I think the summary is that hyperbolic discounting is the cause of procrastination (and other forms of akrasia) and the solution is commitment devices. Beeminder takes a quantified-self approach to commitment devices which we think is especially powerful and flexible.
justarandomqover 4 years ago
&quot;do something against your own interests because you can&#x27;t be trusted&quot;<p>I really like the idea behind beeminder, as it focuses on discipline&#x2F;process more than the outcome, but it looks like I could accomplish this with a spreadsheet, reminders, and a &#x27;swear jar&#x27; of cash I actually get to keep.<p>Might work for some people.
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fy20over 4 years ago
How well does this technique work for goals where the path isn&#x27;t so clearly defined? Say you want to &quot;launch a profitable side business in 2021&quot;, how would you fit this into that? You could have a daily goal of &quot;work 1 hour a day on my side business&quot;, but that could easily end up with you spending 365 hours reading blogs on starting a side business and not getting anywhere.
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tbirdzover 4 years ago
I never really understood beeminder. What&#x27;s to stop someone from just lying so they don&#x27;t have to pay?
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ainiriandover 4 years ago
Somehow I&#x27;ve been train 4 times per week for 5 years now. I can always find some time for it. I wish I could do that for coding.
Bellamyover 4 years ago
I use Habinator app and it&#x27;s working for me.
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agumonkeyover 4 years ago
We should be addicted to taxes. Control mechanisms often reveal where we truly want to go.