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Ask HN: How do I get a word in edgeways?

9 pointsby _0o6vover 4 years ago
I&#x27;m much more of a listener than a talker, but I do have strong opinions about things. I work in a team full of opinionated engineers, some of which have good points, some of which have poor points, but are louder than others.<p>I really struggle to find a pause in some conversations where I can air my views. It&#x27;s got to the point where I just don&#x27;t bother, rather than getting stressed about it.<p>What techniques have people used to ensure their voice is heard in engineering teams where everyone else has a louder voice?

8 comments

eecksover 4 years ago
I know exactly how you feel. Here are some things you could try:<p>* At standups, have a parking lot time at the end where people can raise issues.<p>* Do retrospectives - you should be able to raise your issue and get your team thinking about a solution.<p>* If you&#x27;re running the meeting, have an agenda. Build in time for Q&amp;A and an Any Other Business time. If you&#x27;re not running the meeting, request an agenda.<p>* Book in your own meetings to have your say. Back it up with info.<p>* Try do confidence voting - I have seen this work well. You go around everyone in the room and ask them how confident they are in the solution. It can be eye opening because some people may say 3 (low confidence) while others say 8 (high confidence)<p>* Try make your comments before the meetings (on slack if you are WFH)<p>* Start a Decision Log for team. It may help to prevent the decisions that have been made from poor points.<p>Now, none of these help if your team don&#x27;t care and are just Loud(tm).
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awillenover 4 years ago
A couple of thoughts:<p>1. Practice interjecting, and if other people are talking over your interjection, just keep talking until everyone shuts it. It will feel uncomfortable for you, but it&#x27;s an important skill to have.<p>2. Is there some kind of a leader in these meetings? As a PM, I was often facilitator of discussions, and I would make sure to engage the smart but quiet types. I&#x27;d always talk to them about it first so as not to make them uncomfortable, and we could decide on what&#x27;s best - maybe they make eye contact when they want me to interrupt on their behalf and ask their opinion, maybe I just ask them what they think at some point during each new topic we&#x27;re discussing, or maybe they Slack me when they have something to say (this works well during Zoom&#x2F;conf calls). Sometimes I talk to them for five minutes before the meeting to understand their general thoughts&#x2F;questions about the topics at hand, so I know when to ask for their opinion. If there&#x27;s anyone playing a formal or informal facilitator role, talk to them about this and work out a way they can make sure you&#x27;re included.<p>3. If there&#x27;s no facilitator but you&#x27;re comfortable with some or all of the people in the room, talk to the people you&#x27;re comfortable with at some point casually and mention that you find it tough to break into group discussions. There&#x27;s a strong likelihood they don&#x27;t even realize they&#x27;re keeping you out of things, and when they do, they&#x27;ll consciously try to include you. I come from a family of interrupters - none of us mean it rudely, and because we all do it equally at home, it&#x27;s totally fine. When you put me in a room with non-interrupters, I make a very conscious effort to shut the hell up and let others talk even when I have something to say.<p>4. If none of these work, try communicating your thoughts outside of the meeting. If you have something important to contribute on a topic that&#x27;s going to come up, just casually bring it up with other folks who are going to be there beforehand. Alternatively, send a follow-up email afterwards that opens with something like &quot;Hey guys, I had a couple of thoughts I didn&#x27;t get a chance to mention in the meeting because we ran out of time...&quot;<p>But seriously, I do stress as someone whose natural instinct is to interject constantly that a lot of people who are like me either don&#x27;t know it&#x27;s a problem or do but have trouble controlling it. I&#x27;d never take offense if someone pulled me aside and pointed out that it&#x27;s causing an issue.
dave_sidover 4 years ago
Practice. Build it up gradually. But you don’t have to be or talk like anyone else. Take pride in your own ability to listen, digest, and contribute well thought out points when it suits you. Even if you build up to a few extra contributions here and there.
mattalbieover 4 years ago
As a manager, I would say tell your manager about your struggles. Or tell someone who is in a position to ask you what you think in those meetings.
asguyover 4 years ago
Ask incisive questions when you can sneak them. People who are thinking spend less time talking.
joubertover 4 years ago
What I&#x27;ve seen work very well is raising your hand.
coherentponyover 4 years ago
On con calls? Or in person?
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dvtrnover 4 years ago
Start yelling &quot;Bababooey, bababooey&quot; at the top of your lungs.