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Ask HN: Recommend books that give you insight into other professions

154 pointsby unklefolkover 4 years ago
I want to read books that give me insights into other professions preferably something unrelated to and far from working in technology. For example, what is it like to work on a container ship or the life of a forest ranger. Memoirs with a bit of adventure are a bonus. Thanks!

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swyxover 4 years ago
Ex finance guy here - Liar&#x27;s Poker for 1980s Wall Street, When Genius Failed for 1990s, More Money Than God for 2000s, Flash Boys for 2010s<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Liar%27s_Poker" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Liar%27s_Poker</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;When_Genius_Failed" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;When_Genius_Failed</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;More_Money_Than_God" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;More_Money_Than_God</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Flash_Boys" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Flash_Boys</a><p>obviously these do not represent all of finance but its a nice decade-by-decade recap of talking points, i figured i&#x27;d try to do it and was surprised how nicely it broke out
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klenwellover 4 years ago
Not exactly what you asked for but something in a similar vein are profession-specific Reddit forms. I&#x27;m not sure they fully qualify as professions but I&#x27;ve found these two regularly odd and insightful:<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;InstacartShoppers&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;InstacartShoppers&#x2F;</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;McDonaldsEmployees&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;McDonaldsEmployees&#x2F;</a><p>I guess you could also add these to the list:<p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;smallbusiness&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;smallbusiness&#x2F;</a><p>- <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;TalesFromRetail&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;TalesFromRetail&#x2F;</a><p>I&#x27;m always looking out for curious little subreddits like these that give you a glimpse into a different way of living or working. If anyone has any other recommendations, please share.
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why5sover 4 years ago
Gig: Americans Talk About Their Jobs<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Gig-Americans-Talk-About-Their&#x2F;dp&#x2F;0609807072" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Gig-Americans-Talk-About-Their&#x2F;dp&#x2F;060...</a><p>It&#x27;s basically a series of interviews with people across various industries talking about their jobs. Not exactly &quot;memoir&quot;-style but more of an anthology.<p>Bullshit Jobs: A Theory by David Graeber<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Bullshit-Jobs-Theory-David-Graeber&#x2F;dp&#x2F;1501143336&#x2F;ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=bullshit+jobs&amp;qid=1607207865&amp;s=books&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Bullshit-Jobs-Theory-David-Graeber&#x2F;dp...</a><p>A personal favorite that I read alongside the first recommendation. Just puts a lot of things in perspective with respect to finding meaningful work.
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vmurthyover 4 years ago
Never split the difference : Chris Voss [0] &amp; Start with No : Jim Camp [1] opened my eyes to tactics used by sales&#x2F;&quot;business&quot; folks when they negotiate with me and provided some tips which help me in my own negotiations. Case in point: A car dealer mentioned to me casually that a car whose MRP is AUD 38800 would never be discounted below 34000. I took it as a psychological &quot;anchor&quot; that had to be explored and negotiated rather than agreed upon without discussion. Started with a random figure of 32349 and ended up with getting the car for 33500 ( given that it was my first negotiation, I think it&#x27;s a win :-) )<p>Influence by Cialdini is a timeless classic that helps me appreciate the fascinating world of human psychology<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.in&#x2F;Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-Depended-ebook&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B018FHCPDO&#x2F;ref=sr_1_1?crid=B3RBMIE3MSZX&amp;keywords=never+split+the+difference%27+by+chris+voss&amp;qid=1607209738&amp;sprefix=never+split+the+%2Caps%2C418&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.in&#x2F;Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-Dep...</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.in&#x2F;Start-No-Negotiating-Tools-That&#x2F;dp&#x2F;0609608002&#x2F;ref=sr_1_1?crid=2BMPOVAGCR1W9&amp;dchild=1&amp;keywords=jim+camp+start+with+no&amp;qid=1607209814&amp;sprefix=jim+camp+%2Caps%2C426&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.in&#x2F;Start-No-Negotiating-Tools-That&#x2F;dp&#x2F;060...</a>
pjmorrisover 4 years ago
I found &#x27;The Prize&#x27;, a history of the development of the oil industry, by Daniel Yergin, to be fascinating.<p>Perhaps closer to your request, &#x27;Kitchen Confidential&#x27; by Anthony Bourdain comes the closest to describing life in a restaurant kitchen in a very entertaining way. (Source: Was once a dishwasher and cook in a couple places.) If you like Bourdain, his friend, Michael Ruhlman has several books on being, and becoming, a chef.
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NothingIsRealover 4 years ago
1. <i>How I Raised Myself From Failure to Success in Selling,</i> Bettger<p>A good intro to sales, and a very good book on self-development.<p>2. <i>When Genius Failed: The Rise and Fall of Long-Term Capital Management,</i> Lowenstein<p>A story about LTCM, one of the early and most notorious &quot;quant&quot; hedge funds. A cheeky nod to intellectualism.<p>3. <i>Liar&#x27;s Poker,</i> Lewis<p>Investment banking through a trader&#x27;s eyes. Yes, the absurdity is only partly dramatized.<p>4. <i>Pimp: The Story of My Life,</i> Iceberg Slim<p>No pithy blurb can summarize this; read it if you want a look into human nature.<p>5. <i>The Six-Month Fix: Adventures in Rescuing Failing Companies,</i> Sutton<p>Written by a friend and a mentor; may he rest. Gives you a sobering account of what really goes behind the scenes of many companies, along with their management.<p>Apologies; I know this list isn&#x27;t focused on more humbling professions like the examples you gave.
blackgirldevover 4 years ago
Working, by Studs Terkel<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Working_(Terkel_book)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Working_(Terkel_book)</a>
fluxicover 4 years ago
Editing: <i>Editor of Genius by A. Scott Berg</i><p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Max Perkins was the editor of Hemingway, Thomas Wolfe, F Scott Fitzgerald, and other famous 20th century writers. Great, great, book.<p>Bartending: <i>Cosmopolitan by Toby Cecchini</i><p>&gt;&gt;&gt; Very well-written memoir of a bartender in New York in the late 1980s. He invented the Cosmo in NYC while working at the Odeon — on a lark, without thinking much of it. The drink took off, but I think he&#x27;s still a working bartender in NYC.<p>Cooking: <i>Kitchen Confidential by Bourdain</i><p>Painting: <i>Interviews with Francis Bacon by David Sylvester</i><p>Music: <i>Meet me in the Bathroom by Lizzy Goodman</i><p>Tech: <i>Chaos Monkeys by AGM</i><p>And seconding swyx&#x27;s recommendations for all things Michael Lewis, who can spin a good yarn about any profession — whether it&#x27;s baseball managers, junk bond salesmen, or high frequency traders, etc.<p>I&#x27;ve also picked up lots of good recommendations from this thread <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ask.metafilter.com&#x2F;243036&#x2F;Recommend-a-nonfiction-author-who-has-a-style-like-Anthony-Bourdain" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ask.metafilter.com&#x2F;243036&#x2F;Recommend-a-nonfiction-aut...</a> (I, too, like &quot;insidery&quot; type business books. I&#x27;m currently reading &quot;The Emperor of Scent&quot; about the world of perfume and it&#x27;s pretty good! Also looking forward to reading &quot;Ninety Percent of Everything&quot; about the shipping industry.)
statusanxietyover 4 years ago
Down and out in Paris and London by George Orwell is an excellent insight into the life of a parisian dishwasher in the 1920s. Its also a great exploration of the lives of the working class in that time period.<p>Just Kids by Patti Smith is a beautiful look into the life of a poet and artist.
billfruitover 4 years ago
The Right Stuff - Test Pilots<p>Arrowsmith - Sinclair Lewis - Medical Profession<p>McTeague - Frank Norris - Dentistry<p>Two Years Behind the Mast - Dana - Sailor in thr Merchant Marine<p>The Red and the Black - Stendahl - Catholic Clergy<p>The Centurions - Jean Larteguy - Infantry&#x2F;Special Ops<p>I always suggest reading fiction, it is a good source for lot of incidental knowledge about various aspects of life.<p>Can anyone recommend books&#x2F;novels on the English legal profession? Thanks.
potionsover 4 years ago
<i>Diary of a Very Bad Year: Confessions of an Anonymous Hedge Fund Manager</i> is really entertaining and lucid if you are interested in a &#x27;casual&#x27;(in tone) explanation of the global financial crisis.<p>It&#x27;s a set of interviews with &quot;n+1 magazine&quot; from the course of the year later expanded and collated.
embitover 4 years ago
The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat By neurologist Oliver Sacks is a great book describing some of his very interesting cases. More importantly, his writing style is brilliant.
orloffmover 4 years ago
Sorry for this kind of answer, but for Russians I highly recommend the book &quot;Три Еврея&quot;, Юрий Мухин. Despite the idiotic name &quot;Three Jews&quot;, it&#x27;s an incredible description of management of a huge steel plant (and life in general around it) in 1980s Soviet Union. Something I&#x27;d like to see in a thread like this.
jkeplerover 4 years ago
For perspective on a veterinary surgeon&#x27;s work and world, James Herriot wrote eight books , starting with, &quot;If Only They Could Talk&quot; in 1970. [0]<p>To learn what its like to start a non-profit&#x2F;NGO working to help homeless people, prostitutes and addicts in the streets of Glasgow, Scotland, read &quot;From Whitewashed Stairs to Heaven.&quot; The book tells the story of Maureen McKenna, cofounder of Open Door Trust Glasgow.[1]<p>Wendell Berry&#x27;s written much about farming (among other things).<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;James_Herriot" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;James_Herriot</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.christianfocus.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;855&#x2F;from-whitewashed-stairs-to-heaven" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.christianfocus.com&#x2F;products&#x2F;855&#x2F;from-whitewashed...</a>
nickffover 4 years ago
&quot;Ninety Percent of Everything&quot; is a great book about what it&#x27;s like to work in container shipping.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ninety_Percent_of_Everything" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ninety_Percent_of_Everything</a>
giantg2over 4 years ago
Just one thing I would like to point out. Many of the suggestions I&#x27;ve seen here are about interesting books. These may give you insight into part of a profession, but I think we need to remember that these jobs also have boring parts or that the protagonist is exceptional. After all, most people won&#x27;t read a book about an unremarkable person nor would someone write a book that includes all the boring bits. For example, most police&#x2F;investigative work involves reading through papers, waiting, minor offenses, and other boring stuff that isn&#x27;t sufficiently portrayed in media.
ju-stover 4 years ago
Uncommon Carriers <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B004OA64LQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B004OA64LQ</a> &quot;a collection of six excursions across the United States in various vehicles: coal train; barge-pushing towboat; a canoe on the Concord and Merrimack River, following John and Henry Thoreau&#x27;s excursion in August, 1839; a UPS sorting station and truck; a five-axle, sixty-five foot, eighteen-wheel chemical tanker. &quot; (quote from an Amazon review)
mellosoulsover 4 years ago
This is Going To Hurt by Adam Kay<p>Memoirs of a Doctor in the UK. Very funny at times and moving as well. Useful insights for outsiders into the medical profession and a light read. NHS based, but presumably relevant to other health systems and countries.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;This_Is_Going_to_Hurt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;This_Is_Going_to_Hurt</a>
ghaffover 4 years ago
Historical but Boys on the Bus by Timothy Crouse on old-style political journalism. (Although I imagine a lot is still true.) There&#x27;s a lot about journalism, photojournalism, and so forth (perhaps unsurprisingly) although so much has changed in the past 10-20 years it probably isn&#x27;t that relevant to those professions today.
austincheneyover 4 years ago
The follow suggestions are all novels or non-fiction written as narratives<p>* English rural veterinarian novels - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;James_Herriot" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;James_Herriot</a><p>* Corporate security - The ISC2 CISSP course book <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Official-ISC-Guide-CISSP-CBK&#x2F;dp&#x2F;1119423341" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Official-ISC-Guide-CISSP-CBK&#x2F;dp&#x2F;11194...</a><p>* Military - Catch 22 by Joseph Heller <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Catch-22" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Catch-22</a><p>* Internal investigations - Airframe by Michael Chriton <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Airframe_(novel)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Airframe_(novel)</a>
cafardover 4 years ago
<i>Two Years Before the Mast</i> by Richard Henry Dana is about a way of life long gone, but it is well worth reading. As for the more recent merchant marine, Christopher Buckley&#x27;s <i>Steaming to Bamboola</i> is very funny, and I suppose fairly accurate. For forest rangers, Norman Maclean&#x27;s novella &quot;USFS 1919&quot;, collected in <i>A River Runs Through It</i>, gives a picture of how it was then.<p>August Fruge, longtime director of the University of California Press, wrote an excellent memoir, <i>A Skeptic Among Scholars</i>. There are many academic novels and memoirs, but I think very well of Alvin Kernan&#x27;s <i>In Plato&#x27;s Cave</i>. Also there is Herbert Simon&#x27;s <i>Models of My Life</i>, which touches on academia and computing.
Jugurthaover 4 years ago
Here&#x27;s a reply[0] to a question that asked about directory structure.<p>Ignore the programming&#x2F;technology part.<p>Military books (such as &quot;One Bullet Away&quot; by Nathaniel Fick or &quot;Generation Kill&quot; by Evan Wright which was turned into a mini-series on HBO). Field manuals can be interesting and you can learn a lot from them.<p>Knot books.<p>&quot;Duty: Memoirs of a Secretary at War&quot; by Robert Gates is interesting.<p>&quot;The Art of Intelligence&quot;, by Henry Crumpton.<p>&quot;Diplomacy&quot; by Henry Kissinger is an interesting read. It starts with the balance of power in Europe, raison d&#x27;état, Richelieu, &quot;U.S. exceptionalism&quot;. It is well written.<p>- [0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17593922" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17593922</a>
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paulgbover 4 years ago
&gt; what is it like to work on a container ship<p>You might like The Shipping Man by Matthew McCleery. It&#x27;s fiction, but the author is in the shipping financing industry and the book is a fun way to learn about (a caricaturized version of) that world.
DavidPeifferover 4 years ago
I&#x27;m an industrial engineer. The book that got me started on that path was Cheaper By the Dozen, which we listened to on cassette tape on most road trips &gt;2 hours growing up. I was fascinated by the thought of taking a process or procedure and eliminating as much non-value add time as possible, which they did throughout their lives on things like tonsillectomies for their kids.<p>Some impactful books on the whole field include Factory Physics (focusing on material flow through a factory) and The Toyota Way (focusing on lean manufacturing).
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slimmyjimover 4 years ago
My favorite genre as well. Found this one riveting and hilarious: Wireless Nation: The Frenzied Launch of the Cellular Revolution by James B Murray.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Wireless-Nation-Frenzied-Cellular-Revolution&#x2F;dp&#x2F;0738206881&#x2F;ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&amp;keywords=Wireless+Nation%3A+The+Frenzied+Launch+of+the+Cellular+Revolution&amp;qid=1607212012&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Wireless-Nation-Frenzied-Cellular-Rev...</a>
fbcxover 4 years ago
I feel like I understand nonfiction&#x2F;business book writing and publishing much better after reading The Scribe Method. Super thorough step-by-step instruicions on creating a successful book.<p>Official free download: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scribemedia.com&#x2F;scribe-method-book&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scribemedia.com&#x2F;scribe-method-book&#x2F;</a>
FelipeCortezover 4 years ago
Not exactly what you’re looking for, but Elements of Typographic Style is an excellent introduction to typography written with so much passion it makes you want to become a typographer.<p>We’re mostly programmers here, but The Soul of a New Machine describes the creation of a computer, which is not something people do a lot these days. Fascinating stuff
AceyManover 4 years ago
While it&#x27;s about the origins of a now much changed industry, Earnest Gann&#x27;s <i>Fate is the Hunter</i> is an astounding collection of experiences as a professional pilot during the early years of commercial flight. I ran an airline for years and my jaw hit the floor in several parts in this amazing book. Three thumbs up.
e15ctr0nover 4 years ago
<i>Save Me the Plums</i>, a memoir by a former editor-in-chief of <i>Gourmet</i> magazine, that chronicles the golden age of print media before the Internet turned the world of publishing upside down. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amzn.com&#x2F;081298238X" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amzn.com&#x2F;081298238X</a>
LarryMade2over 4 years ago
Dishwasher: One Man&#x27;s Quest to Wash Dishes in All Fifty States by Pete Jordan. Definitely a different and entertaining read.<p>Gig: Americans Talk About Their Jobs - This is a short anthology that covers various professions was collected in the 90s. Interesting quick views of different people&#x27;s work etc.
cafardover 4 years ago
For a bit of adventure, also Teddy Blue Abbot <i>We Pointed Them North</i> about the cattle drives of the late 19th Century, and Ivan Doig&#x27;s <i>In This House of Sky</i>, about growing up as a sheep rancher&#x27;s son in Montana, and about his father&#x27;s upbringing and work.
macandoover 4 years ago
On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft<p>by Stephen King<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goodreads.com&#x2F;book&#x2F;show&#x2F;10569.On_Writing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goodreads.com&#x2F;book&#x2F;show&#x2F;10569.On_Writing</a>
Tade0over 4 years ago
<i>Whispers: The Voices of Paranoia</i>, Ronald K. Siegel<p>A collection of stories showing some of the ugly parts of being a psychopharmacologist, based on the author&#x27;s own experiences.
chrisMyzelover 4 years ago
I&#x27;m a software dev and run my own company but would love to run a japanese noodle restaurant one day (I&#x27;m caucasian haha). Any good recomdtns?
varencover 4 years ago
Check out “Gig: Americans Talk About Their Jobs”<p>It’s fascinating and covers a very wide range of professions. Sorta of like a more modern remake of Stud Terkel’s 1974 book “Working”
shortandsweetover 4 years ago
Nine pints by Rose George. While not entirely about leechers, a chapter is dedicated to the raising and using of leeches in modern medicine. Very fascinating.
ghufran_syedover 4 years ago
&quot;Snapshots from Hell&quot; by Peter Robinson is a great description of an MBA, with some good descriptions about finance and consulting.
secfirstmdover 4 years ago
The Secret Barrister. A little bit UK-centric but a lot of what is mentioned is really true of most modern criminal justice systems.
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rograndomover 4 years ago
&quot;Elements of Poker&quot; by Tommy Angelo<p>How to be better at Poker (and other parts of life) that has nothing to do with what cards you have.
legitsterover 4 years ago
&quot;First Do No Harm&quot; - A memoir from a brain surgeon.
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