I understand why people here are so pissed about Flash, but if I be completely honest with you, IMO this tech was part of the stuff that made the "old" web so vibrant.<p>I remember about 15 years ago, there was a Flash animations channel on a Chinese website PCOnline.com.cn (Pacific Computer Network), many "Flashkers" published their art works and games there, Little Cherry Cartoon, ShiHuang Animations and that green bean frog to name a few. It was the number 1 place I went to every time when I back from school (that every half month).<p>For Americans, if you visit NASA.gov in around 2005 (I maybe misremembered the exact time), their intro page was a Flash animation featuring rocket launch and other stuff. And that animation was really cool and moving.<p>All of that is no more in today's web. Today's web only gives you few pictures or maybe a video in the background, and a big highlighted "Sign Up"||"Get Started" button. They are less and less "Look me, I'm so cool", and the resonance is mostly gone.<p>It's sad that Adobe was unable to address the security and stability issue in the Flash Player. Bye Flash, it was really fun.
For such a seminal web technology, I thought the 'thanks/goodbye' page was a huge missed opportunity from Flash... there's so much goodwill and nostalgia for the old days and they "celebrate" it with urm... <a href="https://get3.adobe.com/flashplayer/thankyou/" rel="nofollow">https://get3.adobe.com/flashplayer/thankyou/</a>
Next time you use some proprietary technology because you don't care about open source values, think about that:<p>"and it will block Flash content from running on January 12th, 2021."<p>This is a good example of the lack of respect tech companies have for their users!<p>After so many years, you learn suddenly that in 1 month of time you will not be able to open existing content anymore.<p>I would have understood if they had only EOL it and also displayed a warning of obsolescence and risk alert for someone using the plugin that will not be updated anymore.<p>But imagine the huge amount of content already existing that is lost forever? Even worse, if you had created some yourselves and would not be able to see it anymore.<p>Imagine one day Microsoft saying that they are deprecating Office documents (docx, xlsx) as now everything will be done online with office365 and so existing office installation will be remotely disabled to not be able to open documents anymore in 1 month...
Luckily Ruffle has come along just in time... It has already made huge amounts of content playable and I a lot more soon, in both desktop and browser. It is the open source hero we need. Many sites like Newgrounds(a major sponsor) already using it in places.<p>- <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25242115" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25242115</a>
- <a href="https://ruffle.rs/" rel="nofollow">https://ruffle.rs/</a>
They could release it as open source, for history preservation reasons.<p>But the greedy fucks they are, they won't.<p>On the positive side, at least open implementations won't be dealing with a moving target anymore.
Sad look for tech industry: 15 years later, there is no comprehensive alternative, web tech is slow and annoying, and videoconferencing in the browser is basically a space heater. Flash did all of these and more
It really fucking annoys me that they are not just EOL, the copy suggests that they are forcibly disabling it? What about all the old Flash content that will never be updated? I am talking about things like Ishkur's EDM guide (the new one is kind of terrible and lacks the sass of the Flash based on). How are we supposed to use that any more?
Oh the fond memories. I remember being able to develop immersive multi-touch experiences and prototypes using ActionScript 3; there was a cottage industry of businesses supporting these types of application builds. All this existed before the surge of JavaScript innovation and, of course, the entire modern mobile app ecosystem.
"Today marks the final scheduled release of Flash Player for all regions outside of Mainland China."<p>So not 100% true that it's the last update ever if China will get further updates.
I'll miss the Flash era. I feel like there was significantly greater creativity enabled by it than we see today in the HTML5 era. Flash is also much easier to develop for. Yes the security issues were not great. But those can be addressed. Building some of Flash's capabilities into browsers is just shifting where the complexity sits. But the experience of building on web standards is still terrible, and I don't think these standards are as open as people think, since they seem to be primarily controlled/steered by Google. As as for Steve Job's anti-Flash missive - obviously that was to justify proprietary Apple native technologies (specific to their hardware) displacing what Flash provided. I'm sad the HN crowd ate it all up.
I got the pop up "please update flash" dialog on my creaky old MacBook Pro yesterday.<p>I clicked skip/cancel from muscle memory and IIRC it took me to an uninstall page!<p>First time I've come across that behaviour!
For everyone fond and nostalgic of any flash content, the Internet Archive is now emulating Flash animations (using Ruffle <a href="https://ruffle.rs" rel="nofollow">https://ruffle.rs</a>), games and toys in their software collection.<p><a href="https://blog.archive.org/2020/11/19/flash-animations-live-forever-at-the-internet-archive/" rel="nofollow">https://blog.archive.org/2020/11/19/flash-animations-live-fo...</a>
Does anyone know of websites or YT channels that focus on creative projects that make use of post-Flash technologies like WebGL, three.js, GSAP etc.?<p>What made Flash great was that it was an authoring tool that just let you be weird if you wanted to. The web of the 2010s feels so sterile with cookie-cutter responsive templates. The weirdness is almost entirely restricted to meme images drawn in MSPaint or videos from YT'ers or TikTokers trying to get a TV deal.<p>I'd love have a developer take a look at some the Flash website tours on the Web Design Museum YT channel and comment on whether rebuilding those in HTML, CSS and JS only is feasible. Some of those websites were built 20 years ago and look far more advanced than what we see these days.
Have i understood right that the only thing this update does is to disallow my pc run any flash content after january 12? I use flash in firefox browser very often for some reasons and definitely will use it after 12 january so i just afraid to update.
This week I was listening to the radio and the host said (live) that he could not see the script (he made a bigger than usual pause) because of a flash update. I had to laugh. Other members of the show referred to "remind me later" as "kill me later".<p>That evening, watching some movie online it suddenly stopped. I check and it is the same flash update. I guess Flash updates bring us together in a bonding experience.<p>A pity for the environment that enabled so many media experiments and animations. I won't miss the memory leaks or the updates, though.
In memorium, I recommend playing "Badgers | 10 Hours":<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGlyFc79BUE&list=FLqVd9KhDa2i5c18AY5cXohA&index=32" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGlyFc79BUE&list=FLqVd9KhDa2...</a>
Some mention about nostalgia. I'm afraid whenever I think of flash, I think mainly of "punch the monkey" and dodgy .so files in my browser. I won't miss it.
I really liked flash as a creative development tool.<p>Anyone here have experience using the newer Adobe Animate and getting it working fine on websites?
Yesterday I was asked for my email for a fresh install of Windows 10.<p>This immediately enraged me and I considered Linux.<p>I couldn't help but to consider Apple. But Apple is worse, they started the trend of collecting your information just to use their product. Apple is the reason Microsoft can ask for an email. Apple is the reason for the death of Flash. Apple bent at the knee to china. Apple uses pricing as a marketing tactic.<p>Any support of that company is bad capitalism.
Edit: sorry I made you angry. I didn't know that people are still sore about Flash. My memories of it were that it was buggy, made my computer overheat and crash.