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Free internet for all not such a bad idea

58 pointsby eddieozover 4 years ago

9 comments

ozimover 4 years ago
Well I consider internet basic infrastructure like roads or water pipes. It enables business of all kind of sorts to grow and we are well past phase where internet is some kind of &quot;weird academical geeky thing&quot;.<p>Well maybe it is not basic human right, just like having access to a road is not but maybe we should have more internet infra paid with taxes.
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dustedover 4 years ago
I think access to the Internet + an E-Mail account should be basic human rights. It&#x27;s infrastructure too important to leave in the hands of private corporations.<p>[update] I&#x27;m totally okay with this being downvoted, but I&#x27;d like the input as to why, if I&#x27;m somehow wrong, then tell me ? :)
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keiferskiover 4 years ago
This approach (legislation) to resource distribution is often the wrong one. It’s better to simply make the item in question become a commodity, so much so that it’s universally accessible to even the poorest members of society.<p>Think of something like paper. Originally it was exceptionally expensive and only available to the wealthy or particular tradesmen. Scraps of already-used paper were reused because the material was so valuable.<p>Today, paper is basically free. In fact, we’ve gone to far in the opposite direction: people waste paper constantly and it’s an environmental problem.<p>If, in the early stages of paper, we had said “We need to mandate paper for everyone,” I’m skeptical that it would have been commodified. It seems to me that whatever method we use to make internet access easier and cheaper, it probably isn’t going to come from ISPs.
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nabla9over 4 years ago
There are multiple ways to achieve the same effective outcome.<p>In Finland person living alone gets 502.21 EUR per month of &quot;basic income support&quot; (rent is paid using different support system). The sum is calculated using imputed costs where phone, internet and daily newspaper are 20% of the monthly expenses (100 EUR per month)<p>If person can&#x27;t manage his income (alcoholic, drug addict, mental problems) social services might pay some of those directly.
drcongoover 4 years ago
From the newspaper that campaigned harder than any other against the party that had it in their manifesto.
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FriedrichNover 4 years ago
Or at the very least force ISPs to separate their TV service from their internet service. And have some actual competition on the market. Providing internet shouldn&#x27;t be as expensive as it is in many countries.
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2Gkashmiriover 4 years ago
what happens when the governments decide you no longer get to enjoy a fundamental right ?
tractorattrover 4 years ago
I demand to have a free ip! just let us have an ip to share anything we [ as persons ] want to share! actually its free, there is almost no cost at all to make this happen but they won&#x27;t let it. I don&#x27;t know who they are of course.
sgeislerover 4 years ago
That&#x27;s a very bad idea. If there was to be a super cheap&#x2F;free tier it also had to be rather limited in bandwidth, barely enough for e.g. remote school to remove these barriers. But if it was too good you&#x27;d essentially kill off private providers giving the government even more control over people&#x27;s communication. Right now they at least need to pass laws and face backlash to force ISPs to censor stuff. If your government was your ISP they could just censor whatever they want without much oversight since there&#x27;d be little competition left to challenge them. Private companies have at least some incentive not to do so (they&#x27;ll loose customers).
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