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Show HN: Fitocracy, an RPG for fitness

102 pointsby brianmwangabout 14 years ago
My cofounder and I have been working on a site called Fitocracy (www.fitocracy.com), which is a social game for fitness. The idea was very much inspired by our experiences growing up as nerds playing video games, later on discovering weightlifting, and drawing the parallel between working out and "leveling yourself up." XKCD has a pretty well known comic to this effect: http://xkcd.com/189/. We find that the metaphor of workout out as leveling up in a video game resonates with quite a few people, so Fitocracy is an attempt to bring that to life.<p>On Fitocracy, tracking your workouts earns you points/levels, unlocks special achievements, and fulfills "quests", which are basically exercise milestones that aim for workout variety and progression. As you progress in your training, Fitocracy offers more quests, increases the level up requirements, etc. We also try to make the experience as community focused as possible, so the site actively encourages you to follow others with similar fitness approaches, comment on workouts, etc.<p>We have been in invite-only beta since mid-February and have become fairly popular on Reddit and SomethingAwful. I know there are plenty of folks on HN that are interested in fitness so I hope this will be of interest to some of you.<p>URL: http://www.fitocracy.com<p>You can sign up using this invite link: http://ftcy.co/jaBLMa<p>We're still working through a long list of bugs and features to get out, but do feel free to offer any feedback. Hope you all enjoy!<p>You can find me on Fitocracy at: http://www.fitocracy.com/profile/xenowang and my cofounder at http://www.fitocracy.com/profile/dicktalens (seriously, the way our usernames may sound to some is purely coincidental)<p>-Brian<p>Interesting side note: We started working on this in October 2010 and I had no real prior experience in front-end design at that point. I've basically been cutting my teeth in front-end design (design principles, Photoshop mockups, graphic assets, HTML, CSS) on Fitocracy.

29 comments

dkarlabout 14 years ago
I checked out the achievements, and they are mostly strength-focused and pretty daunting for a beginner but possibly too simple for an experienced lifter. The list of achievements should be categorized and fleshed out, with barbell lifts in one category, bodyweight exercises in another category, running in another, swimming in another, kettlebells in another, etc. More levels should be added, too. Video game achievements typically start really easy (10 kills with a particular weapon, for example) and then ramp up quickly. Level one of barbell squatting should be a single barbell squat with any weight! Remember, you're trying to suck people in! For most folks who are entirely new to weightlifting, just walking over to the equipment and starting to use it is an achievement. Your system should validate that feeling and help pull people gradually over the psychological barriers as well as the physical ones.<p>1RM (one-rep maxes) achievements are not friendly for beginners, by the way, because beginners find it less daunting to push themselves for reps than for one massive lift. It feels safer, and conventional wisdom seems to be that it actually is safer. Also, keep in mind that female users will have a very different perception of, say, a 0.9x bodyweight bench press. Revamp your achievements, and they will become a lot more addictive, and therefore a lot more useful for keeping people working out and keeping people on your site.
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darklajidabout 14 years ago
Logged in, watched the tour, feel left out in the cold now.<p>* Lots of quests/suggestions/activities require stuff I don't have. I somehow expected more easily available things (i.e. run/cycle/workouts without the need for gear)<p>* English's a foreign language to me. I can talk you to insanity if we're discussion nerd stuff, but reading most of the quests is gibberish without Google Translate. Add more graphics so that I don't have to guess that much.<p>For now this seems to be heavily focused on native English speakers that like dumbbells/weights and have a good understanding of the science of fitness. That is, not me.<p>Maybe I kind of expected the WoW style easy gratification at first.. ;-)
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3dFlatLanderabout 14 years ago
You should consider adding some more body weight achievements maybe some more exercises. I prefer them to weights--cheaper, always available. <a href="http://www.frixo.com/sites/fitness/" rel="nofollow">http://www.frixo.com/sites/fitness/</a> is a site I use for reference, but there are many out there. Maybe some yoga as well? Adding some amazon affiliate links to some equipment might do well. Pullup bars are cheap and awesome.<p>(I got an internal server error on <a href="http://fitocracy.com/profile_setup_3/" rel="nofollow">http://fitocracy.com/profile_setup_3/</a> of the setup process)
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Goronmonabout 14 years ago
While your site layout is very nice, it's seems like the theme is a bit distant from the subject matter, which you describe as an RPG for fitness.<p>I guess I was expecting less <a href="https://banksimple.com/" rel="nofollow">https://banksimple.com/</a> and more <a href="http://www.rexbox.co.uk/epicwin/" rel="nofollow">http://www.rexbox.co.uk/epicwin/</a>
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darklajidabout 14 years ago
I wanted to log in with Twitter (don't like FB..), but you wanted to have quite a nice list of permissions. Without even knowing a lot about your app, why should I agree (I didn't)?<p>Can you explain what you do with the social network accounts?
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elbrodeurabout 14 years ago
For people who already work out, this is a great tool. For people who need a starting point, this needs some work. Some suggestions that may be helpful:<p>Allow users to specify their starting point or <i>class</i>. How do you want to start exercising? Similar to how players choose classes in MMOs, users could pick a starting point. Srongman, Endurer, Ripped, Swimmer, Biker, Martial Artist, Climber... and the user can choose to start as one of these things and the quests guide the user to achieve that title by focusing on attributes like strength, endurance, tone, lower body workouts, etc.<p>The reason I think this would help people just starting out is that 1) It helps to have someone tell you what to do. That's why personal trainers are popular. 2) It'll confirm whatever bias/propensity a user has. Some people love to ride bikes and the prospect of riding 100 miles is less daunting than the goal of working up to running 10 miles. Likewise a person who is into cardio will be less inclined to try doing heavy weight training.<p>Very cool project. Good luck!
jaysonelliotabout 14 years ago
I joined in February, but I haven't used Fitocracy yet.<p>My feedback on why it hasn't grabbed me yet:<p>1) Design - as Goronmon pointed out above, the design doesn't feel fun or encouraging.<p>2) Performance - it's laggy right now, although I expect that will improve soon.<p>3) User Experience - It's hard to figure out how to get started, or to get a clear picture of how it all works. I'd suggest including lists of activities, rather than making people type into a blank box and look for autocompletes.<p>The activity feed is interesting, but it still feels like a list of data, removed from any context.<p>4) Perception - Right now, it seems like a place for fitness freaks and gym rats. That might be intentional - but I'd much rather use a site populated by out of shape geeks working to get fit.<p>If Fitocracy can make exercise game-like and enjoyable, it will win. The hardest part is getting started each day (getting up to run, going to the gym instead of the pub after work) - that's where Fitocracy can make a difference.<p>Good luck, guys - I hope this becomes something great!
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brianmwangabout 14 years ago
Clickable invite link: <a href="http://ftcy.co/jaBLMa" rel="nofollow">http://ftcy.co/jaBLMa</a>
stewartyabout 14 years ago
How about hitting up the Daily Burn API for workouts as well? I use Daily Burn to track my calories and workouts as it collates them for me nicely and it would suck to have to enter everything twice. I know a lot of people who are already on workout tracking/fitness sites wouldn't move (to much hassle and history) but you could produce a nice add-on to their data.
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wccrawfordabout 14 years ago
Wow, photo required? Ouch. I bet that kills a lot of signups.<p>Edit: And then it stretched it sideways so I look even fatter. Nice.
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joeconwayabout 14 years ago
Your sign up process uses a few things from here <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2517296" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2517296</a> that I really liked. I love being able to see a password I've typed in only once.
smokeyjabout 14 years ago
You should check out my buddies blog, his community would align well with yours, <a href="http://nerdfitness.com/" rel="nofollow">http://nerdfitness.com/</a><p>Maybe send him a message and start working something out?
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JonLimabout 14 years ago
Awesome, always a fan of the gamification of activities, especially if they will result in a net benefit for the participant.<p>Would love to talk shop about what you guys made this with, have an email I can reach out with?<p>Thanks!
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gaddersabout 14 years ago
Looks rather neat, and it's a good idea. I think the issue for me would be taking the time to update it. I use Jefit on android whilst working out to replace paper and pen for recording exercises, weights, reps etc. It would be good if you had a mobile client that would let me record my exercises whilst working out that fed into Fitocracy. If you wanted to be more advanced, so you could even make it two way - EG alerts popping up that say "2kg more and you unlock badge XX", "500m more and you get to level YY".
rav124about 14 years ago
Any thought of adding a simple API? We have some iPhone/Android fitness apps that we looking at hooking into a leaderboard or other social system. This might be an excellent match.
dekayedabout 14 years ago
As someone else mentioned, some of the quests require equipment that I don't have. How about asking the user what type of equipment they have? I wouldn't go too detailed into it, but say something like 'gym membership', 'small home gym', 'treadmill', etc. Once you have that information, you could scope the quests based on that.<p>Another thing that would be useful would be some videos or instructions on some of the exercises. Showing correct form and/or how to use certain equipment would be great.
sophaclesabout 14 years ago
This is a cool site -- great start! I would like to make a couple of suggestions:<p>1. don't just focus on exercise, include an "eat healthy" component too (maybe based on both calories and general healthy food attributes)<p>2. Find a way for user goals. Maybe a "self directed quest" is required for any given level, be it lose X pounds, or reach Y bench weight.<p>3. Find a way to keep stats for people and show them graphs of improvement (or otherwise), not just levels, but attributes :)<p>Keep up the good work.
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bendmorrisabout 14 years ago
I've recently been wanting to get back in shape so this is perfect timing. My morning workout instantly got me up to Level 4 - great motivation.<p>One comment - I'm using a netbook (1024x800 resolution) and some of the boxes, like "great, you just earned X points" are too tall for my browser window, but they move when I scroll - I can't see a button to make the box go away, so I have to click on "play."
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marksbirchabout 14 years ago
Nice website and interesting concept that gets to the motivation issues that prevent most fitness regimes from being successful.
bobblesabout 14 years ago
Hey I've been using fitocracy for a few weeks now (same username) and I'm wondering if theres any plan to add extra functionality for groups?<p>I believe (could be wrong) that there isnt actually a point to groups other than seeing each others updates. Are there any plans for group leaders to create their own quests for members or anything like that?
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jamboabout 14 years ago
Would love to check it out. Got an internal server error on fitocracy.com/setup after redirect from twitter authorization.
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frobozzabout 14 years ago
It would be nice to know, in advance, what it takes to score points.<p>I just logged the run I did yesterday, and was rather surprised that it took me to level 4 instantly, not far off level 5.<p>It would be nice if I could now go and choose an activity that would bring me up to the next level.
thereabout 14 years ago
i didn't see it on the front page but does it interface with any existing data tracking sites like fitbit or strava?<p>you may want to look at <a href="http://earndit.com/" rel="nofollow">http://earndit.com/</a> to see how they automatically pull fitness data.
philabout 14 years ago
See also: <a href="http://healthmonth.com/" rel="nofollow">http://healthmonth.com/</a>
pbhjpbhjabout 14 years ago
Front page is broken for me by default font size on FF4 on Kubuntu 11.04 - <a href="http://imgur.com/9neX6" rel="nofollow">http://imgur.com/9neX6</a> - zooming font down fixes it. It's literally just the button moving that breaks things.<p>Just FYI.
marcinabout 14 years ago
For some reason I can't create the account, but I love the idea - especially levelling up. That's what makes most good training programmes (like CrossFit, which I'm into) successful + peer pressure, which I'm sure you'll provide. Just hope I'll be able to use it one day :)<p>Marcin -- Did you see <a href="http://linkfindr.com" rel="nofollow">http://linkfindr.com</a> ?
sebkomianosabout 14 years ago
If you could make a few more invites available I'd gladly join!
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tgandrewsabout 14 years ago
Love it.
thomasdavisabout 14 years ago
You should link us to your profiles, I'd like to see what you lift =D
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