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A new SaaS metric for demonstrating the ROI of community

117 pointsby someproductover 4 years ago

7 comments

gagejustinsover 4 years ago
This is cool! We used the word "love" a lot at DigitalOcean as one of the key/core values for how we thought about customers and community. Curious - how do you think of blogs and content marketing w.r.t this? Is that a "big marketing effort" or does it fit into community?
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swyxover 4 years ago
so first of all i love the work you folks are doing to map out this very difficult problem, i think the 4 level orbit model is bang on and i tell everyone about it every chance i get.<p>objection 1:<p>this NRG formula – i dont know. as you already note, its kinda indirect what is attributable to product centric upsells, and content marketing SEO. i understand that you can make the case that all this comes from community work, but it can feel like a landgrab to the other people who already do this job and dont exist in the &quot;community org&quot;. (of course people shouldnt be that political, they&#x27;re all on the same team, etc etc). it&#x27;s less useful because Product, Marketing, Community all could feasibly lay claim to this same metric, and importantly, when its not doing well, they each can blame the other.<p>objection 2:<p>internal politics aside, i think my primary source of discomfort comes from 2 angles - A) punting the &quot;what is the value of community&quot; question to the &quot;what % of our signups are organic&quot; question (which as we know is often up for manipulation&#x2F;debate), and B) ARR from services doesn&#x27;t count?<p>anyway, its no worse than the nothing we currently have, so i think a worthwhile exercise, even if not objective.
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webbruceover 4 years ago
Interesting but what if you already started sales? Would be very hard to distinguish &quot;Organic Signups&quot; as when you get a sales team you&#x27;ll find adoption goes up. Following up on leads, helping them get going, etc (if the price point supports it, usually $200&#x2F;mo+)
Vishal_TEover 4 years ago
It&#x27;s just a different name for virality&#x2F;word of mouth&#x2F;organic growth etc.
treelovinhippieover 4 years ago
&quot;ROI of community&quot; bloody hell. Startups really killed the word &quot;community&quot;.
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vtimdover 4 years ago
Absolutely love the Orbit model and app!
mooredsover 4 years ago
How is NRG different from virality?