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Platforms that have banned or restricted Trump so far

47 pointsby catherinezngover 4 years ago

7 comments

jmcdlover 4 years ago
Anyone who thinks this is a good thing is a very poor student of history.
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copperwater69over 4 years ago
Thats spooky. I didn&#x27;t realise so many of them did it.<p>&gt;Reddit &gt;Twitch &gt;Shopify &gt;Twitter &gt;Google &gt;Youtube &gt;Facebook &gt;Instagram &gt;Snapchat &gt;Tiktok &gt;Apple &gt;Discord &gt;Pinterest<p>And then the article ends with &quot;Trump is quickly losing access to all the platforms where he once was able to spread his message freely, but groups of his supporters will still be able to gather online.&quot;
ZeroClickOkover 4 years ago
Witch hunt. All conservative voices will be silent now. Really a sad day for the humam history.
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buttholesurferover 4 years ago
This is pretty fucking insane and I hate the man<p>They are banning everyone around him too. Groups that are for him...<p>Its a shame.
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throwawayseaover 4 years ago
What I have observed today on social media is that censorship has been ramped up dramatically all in one day. And I don&#x27;t mean Trump. I&#x27;m seeing even posts from conservative accounts that unequivocally condemned the capitol raid getting deleted, and entire accounts being deleted with no notice. This to me feels a lot like a digital political genocide, the culmination of an ascendant group with significant power (progressive left allied with tech giants) suddenly unleashing it upon their political enemies.<p>I dislike Trump, but the claim that he has incited violence is without evidence, and we see that in Twitter&#x27;s blog post announcing his ban (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.twitter.com&#x2F;en_us&#x2F;topics&#x2F;company&#x2F;2020&#x2F;suspension.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.twitter.com&#x2F;en_us&#x2F;topics&#x2F;company&#x2F;2020&#x2F;suspensio...</a>), since it offers no hard evidence and only subjective leaps of the imagination. The call to delete his account because of the current political <i>context</i> is unacceptable, and it is also total hypocrisy given that this logic was not applied when BLM riots caused billions of Dollars in damage in the last year. It&#x27;s also hypocritical given that nearly identical incidents (riots at the capitol) have taken place several times before and not resulted in this type of coverage or censorship. Several of these incidents are in the past few years, such as the climate riot which AOC participated in (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theintercept.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;11&#x2F;13&#x2F;alexandria-ocasio-cortez-sunrise-activists-nancy-pelosi" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theintercept.com&#x2F;2018&#x2F;11&#x2F;13&#x2F;alexandria-ocasio-cortez...</a>) or the riots concerning Brett Kavanaugh&#x27;s appointment (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;us-news&#x2F;2018&#x2F;oct&#x2F;04&#x2F;kavanaugh-supreme-court-protests-washington" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;us-news&#x2F;2018&#x2F;oct&#x2F;04&#x2F;kavanaugh-su...</a>) or the 600-person riot protesting immigration law (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;abcnews.go.com&#x2F;Politics&#x2F;womens-march-protesters-call-end-family-separation-capitol&#x2F;story?id=56240419" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;abcnews.go.com&#x2F;Politics&#x2F;womens-march-protesters-call...</a>).<p>This isn&#x27;t about riots. It isn&#x27;t about violence. It isn&#x27;t about a coup. It isn&#x27;t about Trump even. It is only about big tech bowing down to the new incoming leaders who control their fates, and with the changing of the guard, they have become comfortable showing who they are - powerful partisans who will put the power of their monopolies to work if left unimpeded. That should scare anyone who knows where this path leads based on history. I&#x27;m genuinely worried, because as always, these changes come in response to an event that scared people and now they are naively welcoming authoritarian changes.
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mimikatzover 4 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;DaveLeeFT&#x2F;status&#x2F;1347724201331814401" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;DaveLeeFT&#x2F;status&#x2F;1347724201331814401</a> They banned him from his email lists. Strange Trump tries a sudo(overtish?) coup on the US and the Tech industry sudo coups a sitting president. With only the shrinking broadcast network will soon be his only outlet.
armchairhackerover 4 years ago
Here is my opinion on this, in case you&#x27;re interested for some reason.<p>I consider myself centrist but usually agree with liberal policies, however I also believe in free speech.<p>I honestly don&#x27;t have a problem with mainstream platforms banning the radical right, because I don&#x27;t really care about <i>their</i> speech. In case it isn&#x27;t clear I think Donald Trump and his policies are awful.<p>The problem, and the reason I argue we need free speech: I believe any attempt that would <i>actually</i> censor them would also have to censor innocent people caught in the crossfire.<p>- Suppose these people start using code-words. Now, in an effort to ban these covert discussions, you risk misidentifying and banning random people. - Suppose these people brigade more moderate groups and subreddits. Now you may ban moderate Conservatives and libertarians who <i>don&#x27;t</i> deserve to be banned. Believe it or not, there are Conservatives who hate Donald Trump, who are reasonable people, and who occasionally discover flaws in the left party, because even though I mostly side with the left party they aren&#x27;t perfect. - Suppose these people move to decentralized platforms like Signal. In order to break or monitor their communication, you must enable Signal to break or monitor <i>anyone&#x27;s</i> communication, including activists who need it for good purposes. - Similarly, if governments or ISPs can block these people from hosting their own website, that means governments or ISPs can block anyone from hosting their own website, so in the future they could block the good guys.<p>Another thing you have to note is that this is a decent amount of the population. Even though they&#x27;re idiots, you can&#x27;t ignore them and you can&#x27;t suppress them. A lot of these people are your average people, they just grew up in a biased society so bias is all they know. When you aggressively threaten and censor them, you&#x27;re only scaring them, so they become more irrational and dangerous.<p>Unfortunately I don&#x27;t know how else you&#x27;re going to restrict or convince right extremists. I&#x27;m sure it&#x27;s possible, if you offer them something. Or more likely, if they get bored and distracted by something else, which would require the news to stop covering Donald Trump and start covering another, more interesting drama.
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