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A request to cloud providers: Give us access to the logs, please?

28 pointsby tremtalmost 14 years ago

9 comments

patio11almost 14 years ago
This is totally doable, and if someone asked for it for Appointment Reminder, it would turn a $30 a month account into a $5,000 a month account by itself. If you honestly care about audit trails, welcome to enterprise pricing and hope you enjoy your stay.
wccrawfordalmost 14 years ago
"This is not hard to do."<p>That's a big assumption. I've worked with systems that wouldn't have been able to provide this without a LOT of work and upgrades, and they weren't anywhere near the size if Google and Amazon.
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jgodinalmost 14 years ago
It would be nice to some more of this.<p>For Google Apps (for Business, Education, and ISPs), information on logins (both successful and failed) and logouts is already available to the domain administrator: <a href="http://code.google.com/googleapps/domain/audit/docs/1.0/audit_developers_guide_protocol.html#downloading_account_information" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/googleapps/domain/audit/docs/1.0/audi...</a><p>For personal accounts, you have access to SOME of this data: select "Details" next to the account activity information in the footer of Gmail's web interface.
WestCoastJustinalmost 14 years ago
Almost 10 years ago I worked for a digital imaging company called ACD Systems and we had a major product launch of ACDSee. We were using Akamai as a CDN and we wanted to know the stats about who was downloading.<p>Think about this for a second.. Akamai is massive with 10,000+ global servers handling massive amounts of traffic. It might sound simple to fetch one users logs but how do you make this simple for the user. Akamai also had a proprietary log format. To their credit we had a couple conference calls and we worked with their engineers to find a solution. They were a great company.<p>You don't see logs being offered because it is a major pain in the ass to compile these logs from many servers and reduce them for a specific user.
btillyalmost 14 years ago
You can get at <i>some</i> of that information for gmail. See <a href="http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=gmail&#38;answer=45938" rel="nofollow">http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=gmail&#38;a...</a> for details.
invertedlambdaalmost 14 years ago
Heroku does this - they have a nice console interface for pulling down the logs from your deployed app. Granted, it is not quite the same as Gmail, but it's always a start.<p>Maybe it's a business idea: email for geeks. I'd use it. :)
racketeeralmost 14 years ago
Yes, we could give you the logs,.. but if we have a multiple tenants in one machine, then the logs are going to show those users activity as well... This is a little trickier than made out to be.. Still doable, but some of the companies/products mentioned, (i.e. Salesforce) have customers on there that wouldn't want you seeing they're activity. You could begin to draw assumptions about some salesforce customer you share a machine with by looking at their log activity. That company would then not be very happy with salseforce...
mseebachalmost 14 years ago
I don't agree with the articles assumptions on the immense usefulness of this. Services where it makes sense disseminates the info anyway. Amazon sends me e-mails when I buy something. Other sites have RSS feeds of activity.<p>Why would I want to run intrusion detection on cloud based services? Isn't that why you put it in the cloud?
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newobjalmost 14 years ago
<a href="http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/ServerLogs.html" rel="nofollow">http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/Server...</a>