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Audi announces end of combustion A4, A6 and A8 models

305 pointsby reddotXover 4 years ago

14 comments

perardiover 4 years ago
<i>“These steps are mentioned in a portrait of Duesmann, who has been at the helm of the VW subsidiary in Ingolstadt for three quarters of a year, in the German publication Manager Magazin. Specifically, it says that new versions of the A4 and A6 will be launched again from 2023 and electric variants will follow a little later, but that Audi does not even want to offer the mid-range models as internal combustion engines until the end of their life. Ergo, the end will be before 2030.”</i><p>Um. That is not exactly an announcement.<p>That’s an attempt to read between the lines of an article in a magazine that says Audi would like to start phasing things out, maybe, if the market and regulatory conditions are right. That is a far cry from an announcement.
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btmillerover 4 years ago
I just bought a PHEV from Volvo and I love it. It gives me the flexibility to roam around town on pure electric while also providing the range I need to go hiking in remote areas.<p>A lot of the Seattle area only has street parking on residential streets. I&#x27;m curious how these folks are ever going to go full EV.
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igorstellarover 4 years ago
Car power plant is important, but also everything else is. I just bought ICE german luxury car just because there is nothing even close to it in the EV department. Teslas interior are falling apart and build quality is really poor. I also do not want to share telemetry.<p>I do road trips sometimes and have no spare time to charge. Opinion: It seems like until there is something better than lithium batteries are coming up, EV market is just no good.
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x3haloedover 4 years ago
Sometime before 2030? Wow, don’t move <i>too</i> fast, Audi.
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radium3dover 4 years ago
This is great. As an EV owner for almost 2 years now let me tell you you&#x27;ll love the speed and savings<p>See my energy usage and cost spreadsheet for details. Scroll to the right for the charts. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.google.com&#x2F;spreadsheets&#x2F;d&#x2F;16JLSzoWA0154ZUU3ahJ_O4LorGFFrc1defUCKisrGVE&#x2F;edit?usp=drivesdk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.google.com&#x2F;spreadsheets&#x2F;d&#x2F;16JLSzoWA0154ZUU3ahJ_...</a>
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shocksover 4 years ago
I just can’t fall in love with EVs. They don’t seem to have the same ‘soul’ as ICEs, which feel beautiful from an engineering perspective.<p>I would happily have an EV daily, but I’ll always want an ICE exotic of some kind for weekend fun.
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wing-_-nutsover 4 years ago
I&#x27;d love to go EV, but I rented apartments before finally buying a condo. Where am I supposed to charge?<p>The greenest option I can realistically go for is a hybrid, but I&#x27;ll probably wind up going for a regular ICE car, as they typically have much better acceleration than hybrids, esp at highway passing speeds.
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rsyncover 4 years ago
... which is another way of saying that there will not be <i>normal</i> Audi electrics until 2030.<p>Another ten years of iMobiles and e-Tron Space cars and e-initiatives.<p>Volvo made a similar announcement a few years ago and I see I cannot buy an electric V90. Or any <i>actual volvo</i> other than the little XC40 and their iMobile&#x2F;eCar Polestar.<p>We don&#x27;t want your electric car. We want <i>your car, electric</i>.
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anewaccount2021over 4 years ago
An interesting side-effect will be a potential market for crazy-cheap used ICE luxury cars. Once all of the high-earners demand EVs, the market will be flooded with lightly-used luxury ICE vehicles. A year-old Bentley for $30k? The day might come as long as you are willing to be one of the ICE dinosaurs!
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costcopizzaover 4 years ago
I hope gassers are kept for a few of their high performance RS models.<p>Their 5cyl motor is a beast, and the sound is an sensation no EV will ever top.
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sorensoover 4 years ago
I suppose the other makers in VAG will follow since it&#x27;s cars on the same platforms of many other cars like the VW Passat.
mmacvicarprettover 4 years ago
Anyone knows why only A4, A6 and A8 and not also A5 and A7 ?
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lmedinasover 4 years ago
this is great news... i got an VW ID.4 this week and its an amazing good family car. VAG is definitely on the right way.
darkrover 4 years ago
It seems a bit short sighted to abandon hybrids altogether. EV&#x27;s are great for your average suburban&#x2F;urban commuter, but they are terrible for long distance cross-country drives as you have to wait for hours for it to charge (presuming that current issues with availability to charge points in service stations are addressed).<p>I once had to drive 900 miles in around 12 hours to make a flight (driving an Audi funnily enough). That journey would take _days_ in an EV.
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