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Western Graduates Head to China for Internships

20 pointsby shinyalmost 14 years ago

6 comments

newhousebalmost 14 years ago
Disclaimer: I realize that the article says that it isn't necessarily entirely about China, and more about demonstrating certain personality traits, but China's relevance is clearly the hot issue here. I know I find the Chinese market fascinating and would love to get involved in its explosive growth in any meaningful way I can.<p>TL;DR: If you want to be part of the future brain drain to China, merely knowing Chinese culture/language isn't sufficient. Be an expert in something that's needed world-wide and you will be needed in China.<p>I worked at Microsoft Research in Beijing as an intern and I think one of the biggest lessons I walked away with was that in order to work in China and actually have an impact prior experience in China is necessary but _not_ sufficient. Like anywhere else - you will always need to be an expert in your field to have impact, regardless of the cultural context in which you work - being a token part of an organization affords no influence.<p>I think a lot of people get involved with China thinking - "I'll learn Chinese and I'm sure companies in China would love to have an American on board connecting them with Western society!" The reality is, however, that most people in the knowledge industry's English is probably a lot better than your Chinese. I worry that some people fear China's impending growth and task their kids on becoming an expert in Chinese instead of an expert in a field China greatly demands (say photovoltaics).<p>Being a white guy who can speak Chinese is a neat party trick in a domestic Chinese setting but is very much second to if you can warrant the insane pay rate you might demand relative to a typical domestic employee. Think about H1Bs and how they're designed to weed out anyone who's job couldn't be done by an American worker. In China, I don't think the legal rules are quite as strict, but there is plenty of swelling nationalism to more than make up for it.
alexbowmanalmost 14 years ago
I do think its admirable to push your boundaries. The article and some comments here recognize that greater interest is more valuable to employers than specific experience, less of a China thing, more that you've done it. But, if you're interested in China:<p>I've lived and worked in China for 5 years and wanted to make a few more points:<p>* It is hard to get in touch with the key company person for intern opportunities;<p>* Even if you do, it might be the first such approach they've ever had;<p>* Outside the largest companies with formal intern programs there may be intern programs (and may not), but in partnership with local schools or other feeder companies;<p>* Global companies tend to have global intern programs with limited local admission.<p>That is by no means not a reason not to have a go applying. If anything, if you can break through those barriers you're already a long way there.<p>Bear in mind the following:<p>* Companies are going to ask themselves "What's in it for me?"<p>* They might panic about visas, especially the headache of applying for a short term working visa;<p>* They'll need some very strong persuasion you're committed, will avoid significant culture shock, will not simply run away, and as sponsor of your visa will not damage their reputation;<p>* Cowboy language schools mascaraed as intern opportunities, beware.<p>An additional: The article doesn't state explicitly, but the consultant company, CRCC Asia, mentioned as internship intermediator, organizes internships for a fee. That does mitigate much of the above - both effort and reward in my view. Link to their fee page: <a href="http://www.crccasia.com/internships/prices-dates" rel="nofollow">http://www.crccasia.com/internships/prices-dates</a><p>Edit: Lines initially did not break
ronaldjalmost 14 years ago
<i>"who had a two-week placement with Baoshang Bank in Beijing late last year"</i><p>How much can you possibly learn in two weeks?
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gommmalmost 14 years ago
If any students reading this is interested by an internship in Shanghai, we are looking for interns :-)<p>It would be doing ruby on rails and node.js development, 3 month minimum, paid a small stipend (enough to cover cost of living in Shanghai)<p>Contact at interns@webagecorp.com
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tybrisalmost 14 years ago
Funny how history repeats itself, with different parameters.
omousealmost 14 years ago
Cool, they get to learn to rule with an iron fist in a few weeks. Now <i>that</i> is progress.