And this right here is why so many people have been dead against voting machines. Even if you think you understand them, most voters can't. Most voters have no idea what to look for to see signs of fraud.<p>Ballot papers are understood by everyone. Just about every voter knows when they're seeing something happen with ballot papers that is suspect. Just about every voter knows when there really isn't anything remotely credible about ballot papers marked and properly counted and scruitinised. It's not perfect but it is so much better than litterally anything else it's not comparable. Justice must not only be done it must be seen to be done.<p>Any and all voting machines /must/ only ever be used to mark ballot papers that are filed in the usual way and can be counted in the usual way if there is any doubt whatsoever.<p>To hell with these election tech companies for doing anything else. Undermining the proper functioning of democracy for profit is something for which I will never, ever forgive them.<p>The whole point is <i>I</i> should be convinced, <i>everyone</i> should be convinced that the election was run and counted fairly when I loathe and hate the result. When I can't understand how it could be true I should be utterly convinced that it is.<p>So here we are with baseless claims of election fraud and yet there's some fertile ground to sew them where there should be NONE. Cheering these assholes for suing fox is just because I hate Murdoch is beneath me and should be beneath us all.<p>So here's the question. Will America reform its electoral process to increase citizens confidence that the voting and counting is free of political and/or corporate interests? Including gerrymanders and such or will the disease march on ever worsening to more and louder cries from all losers of "We were robbed!" See Neera Tanden's "Russia tampered with the election to make Hilary lose" if you need examples for the whole "both sides" thing.
> Smartmatic accused Rupert Murdoch’s network of promoting a false narrative about the 2020 election<p>I can't wait to see the evidence. That'll prove that the devices are auditable. They are, right?<p>If anyone in government really wants to have a notable legacy, here's how: petition the USDS to create an integrated open-source election system, and get people like Matt Blaze and Harri Hursti to run a red team against it.<p>Enough with the foreign companies creating and operating black boxes. Enough with the smears against people who call for entirely reasonable verification while we have absolute top-tier experts regularly showing us that these systems are deeply flawed. Make elections trustworthy.
I don’t think this is going to go anywhere, probably just handing out lawsuits. I do believe they may be able to win their case against Giuliani. Read a long article going into depth about it and seems like a strong case that he was very negligent. I mean there are court records of him saying they have no evidence for his claims yet he continued to spew them in public.
To all the naysayers, is there any other way to hold fox accountable for all the propaganda and division that they have down for that 5 years at least? And to hold rupert murdoch accountable?
The opening of suit is priceless.<p>“The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States. The election was not stolen, rigged, or fixed. These are facts. They are demonstrable and irrefutable.<p>Defendants have always known these facts. They knew Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 U.S. election. They knew the election was not stolen. They knew the election was not rigged or fixed. They knew these truths just as they knew the Earth is round and two plus two equals four.”<p><a href="https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/02/04/what-smartmatics-giuliani-lawsuit/" rel="nofollow">https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/02/04/what-smartmatics-giul...</a>
> Smartmatic, which provided services for the 2020 election in only one county<p>> Smartmatic’s complaint takes into account not only the reputational and financial damage the company said it had suffered, but also the harm done to the United States by the claims promoted by Mr. Trump’s allies and the Murdoch-controlled networks he had long favored.<p>It appears that they are also trying to add the United States of America as defendants after Fox News slandered them with lies during the post-election period.<p>In other words, this lawsuit is going to be laughed out of court. I agree that Fox News lied a lot, maybe even more than usual and is at least partially responsible for the riots on the capitol, but these guys are nuts I don't want them representing me against a giant media empire.