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Ask HN: are Facebook and Twitter still private companies?

4 pointsby markhollisover 4 years ago
A commonly held opinion among the reactions to the social media censorship, is the following &quot;Facebook and Twitter are private companies, they do want they want.&quot;<p>An interesting question to ask is whether Facebook, Twitter (and consorts) are really private companies.<p>In many areas, they have grown into branches of government. They are being used to do the &#x27;dirty work&#x27;. They enforce hate speech legislation, made by government organisations. They sell information to intelligence services. They communicate together about &#x27;streamlined approaches&#x27;.<p>A private company is led by profit motives. Is that really the case nowadays with Facebook and Twitter? If profit was the most important thing, would they ban all those people?<p>What do you think?

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sigmaprimusover 4 years ago
Assuming that they are in fact private companies would that make it easier to accept their censoring and banning of users?<p>I think the more important question should be, how much public money is being spent on servicing accounts on these &quot;Private&quot; companies and is there a fair bidding process involved in deciding which of these companies governments spend their reasorces on?<p>Every time I hear about governments offering a service such as providing more information and said info is available through one of these &quot;private&quot; companies such as a Twitter address or worse a Facebook page in which questions, comments or any other means of communication of it&#x27;s citizens to the government agencies is set up in such a way that requires their citizens have an unbanned account to use one of these &quot;private&quot; company&#x27;s services, It makes me wonder how many government dollars are being spent through employee salaries and advertising dollars without a fair and open tender process.<p>If the reason there is no tender process is due to there being no other &quot;private&quot; company providing the services that they are, then anti-trust legislation should restrict governments from supporting them, including hiring social media staffers that specifically work on these monopolistic platforms.
sigmaprimusover 4 years ago
One more thought regarding the censorship and banning of social media users I have, concerns the rules and laws surrounding private companies running sweepstakes contests on these platforms.<p>At one time it was required that any contest run by private corporations that offered prizes was also required to offer entry to the draw through a &quot;No purchase nessisary&quot; scheme, otherwise it is just gambling.<p>It now seems it is perfectly fine to require the public to have an account and in turn enter a contract with another private for profit entity in the form of a social media platform user account.<p>Have the laws changed to facilitate this? Maybe section 230 provides the loophole?
solus_factorover 4 years ago
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PaulHouleover 4 years ago
if one extremist chases away 100 normal users or 100 advertisers then the calculation is clear.<p>For instance, a normal brand like Target or Budweiser doesnt want to serve ads next to hateful content -- it has too much to lose.