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Sci-Hub: Elsevier and Springer Nature Obtain UK ISP Blocking Order

201 pointsby pictureover 4 years ago

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cybert00thover 4 years ago
It&#x27;s whack-a-mole time again children!<p>Lots of money and time spent on what will, in the end, amount to a whole lot of nothing as, those who REALLY do want to access Sci-hub, will find a way round this.
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breckover 4 years ago
Anyone who was waiting for the revolution, now is the time.<p>No more bullsh*t. No more compromise. The sun does not revolve around the earth, and the overwhelming evidence shows the ideal duration for patents and copyright is zero.<p>#EndImaginaryProperty #LiberateIdeas #AbolishCopyrights #AbolishPatents #BringBackNapster
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dartharvaover 4 years ago
When will they ever learn? Forcing ISPs to block websites will only antagonize the scholars more, who can anyway access the website with or without a ban. They&#x27;ll do nothing to harm Sci-hub, in fact it&#x27;ll make it even more popular.<p>Elsevier also did this in India - it pissed me off so much I shifted towards downloading papers from Sci-Hub even when I have a university subscription.
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dr_dshivover 4 years ago
I have great access through my university library system.<p>But Sci-Hub and LibGen have radically accelerated my ability to do research.<p>It can be infuriating when I can&#x27;t find a book or article that I need. But 9&#x2F;10 that happens within the digital library system not scihub&#x2F;LibGen.
andyjohnson0over 4 years ago
&gt; At the time of writing, TalkTalk’s rival ISPs including Virgin Media, BT, Sky, EE and O2 are not reporting the existence of a blocking order but it seems extremely unlikely that they won’t be required to act against Sci-Hub under the same order.<p>sci-hub.se is still accessible to me on EE and Virgin Media.<p>Edit: s&#x2F;scihub&#x2F;sci-hub&#x2F;
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uncledaveover 4 years ago
Zen and AA have no blocking in place for any sites.<p>Don’t go with major ISPs in the UK. They are a shit show.
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varshithrover 4 years ago
So VPN?
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HotHotLavaover 4 years ago
I wish scientists would start growing a spine and <i>stop citing</i> Elsevier journals. That&#x27;s the only thing that will break the vicious cycle of everybody publishing there because it gets a lot of citations, despite nobody actually <i>reading</i> in the journal. Put up a link to the pdf on the authors home page as reference, if it is essential to the paper, or leave it out completely if it isn&#x27;t.
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burundi_coffeeover 4 years ago
In TalkTalk the domain of the website is explicitly stated. Would it be enough to change the domain name to get around this?
Frost1xover 4 years ago
I&#x27;d love to see a pre-print database shared between all the major federal funding agencies which required any publications that go behind pay walls to share a corresponding pre-print that&#x27;s publicly accessible for any paywalled publications. Let state and other private entities opt into joining the share repository.<p>I get it. Editing and reviewing costs money for journals. That&#x27;s fine, let them monetize their improved versions but let the tax payers decide if they care to pay for those services or not as opposed to digging around for a researchers public preprint if they maintain one or being forced to dig through Sci-Hub and the like.<p>arXiv sort of fills this role and is growing in popularity but it&#x27;s not mandated, centralized for all domains,, or promoted by the federal government which would push such an effort to the critical mass needed for larger adoption.
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