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Ask HN: Does everything has to have a ROI?

7 pointsby johnsmith4739about 4 years ago
I&#x27;m one of the founders of a startup operating in the HR bubble and while so far none of our clients asked, one of our advisors - SV senior position, relatively big startup - suggested we figure out a way to calculate the ROI for using our solutions.<p>I feel that we&#x27;re not particularly fit to be evaluated in this particular way, because we&#x27;re more likely a hygiene solution: if you don&#x27;t do what we help you do, things will stink.<p>Beside this, we&#x27;re doing behavioural qualification so we don&#x27;t address orgs that don&#x27;t have a clear and present need for our solution.<p>But, I don&#x27;t want to be right, I want to be smart (or at least less stupid) and I can imagine a scenario where this ROI issue could come up, and I wonder how can I navigate it. Thanks in advance!

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mindcrimeabout 4 years ago
The one way I know of to quantify something like &quot;what&#x27;s the value of preventing something bad from happening&quot; is to use the kind of techniques described in Douglas Hubbard&#x27;s <i>How To Measure Anything</i>[1]. Teach some experts within the customer company how to do calibrated probability assessment[2], then build a model, and run a Monte Carlo simulation[3] over that model. That gives you a way to at least loosely quantify things. It&#x27;s not perfect, but for what you&#x27;re doing it probably doesn&#x27;t need to be.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;How-Measure-Anything-Intangibles-Business-ebook&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B00INUYS2U" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;How-Measure-Anything-Intangibles-Busi...</a><p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Calibrated_probability_assessment" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Calibrated_probability_assessm...</a><p>[3]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Monte_Carlo_method" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Monte_Carlo_method</a>
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_the_inflatorabout 4 years ago
Here is a way to learn to describe processes and quantify the gains you created: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ycombinator.com&#x2F;library&#x2F;8d-how-to-build-a-great-series-a-pitch-and-deck" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ycombinator.com&#x2F;library&#x2F;8d-how-to-build-a-great-...</a><p>(Belongs to this <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ycombinator.com&#x2F;library&#x2F;20-deck" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ycombinator.com&#x2F;library&#x2F;20-deck</a> )<p>Especially this exercise is extremely helpful: &quot;Explain how the world currently works. Aim to show, not tell&quot;
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jbjbjbjbabout 4 years ago
I think you’re talking about a risk reduction ROI. = Reduction in risk &#x2F; cost of compliance - 1<p>I saw this in a security context <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cisecurity.org&#x2F;blog&#x2F;the-one-equation-you-need-to-calculate-risk-reduction-roi&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cisecurity.org&#x2F;blog&#x2F;the-one-equation-you-need-to...</a>