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TikTok and the network effects of creativity

136 pointsby MaximumMadnessabout 4 years ago

8 comments

tomericoabout 4 years ago
The most disruptive part of Tiktok is how it managed to dramatically reduce the &quot;rich gets richer&quot; effect of entertainment platforms. If you upload a video, TikTok will show it to other users even if it&#x27;s your first. This allows them to assess it and progressively grow its audience. On YouTube and Instagram you&#x27;d have to rely on search traffic or external sources to build up your audience and get recommended (except for the new Reels &#x2F; YouTube Shorts that are mimicking TikTok&#x27;s UI).<p>I&#x27;ve done an experiment on the new year and created a video on a new account trying to catch people&#x27;s attention (relevant to the new year, funny, with something unusual). I&#x27;ve done i on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. On TikTok it gained over half a million views, with 0 views on YouTube and Instagram.<p>Another way to frame this is around the Gini Coefficient of these platform. TikTok has a much lower inequality measure, which increases the incentives to produce content and hence the quality of content.
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uniqueidabout 4 years ago
Every video I have seen that managed to escape TikTok&#x27;s confines and infiltrate my consciousness could be inserted into an episode of &#x27;America&#x27;s Funniest home Videos&#x27; and leave nobody the wiser.
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nikki93about 4 years ago
I think the &quot;each new member can enhance creativity of existing members&quot; vibe can exist generally among &quot;scenes&quot;, and scenes definitely can use technology that directly taps into this.<p>I like the &quot;scenius&quot; term for this from Brian Eno: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;0qATeJcL1XQ" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;0qATeJcL1XQ</a> (54:15 in that talk)
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Firebrandabout 4 years ago
I don’t know why people are underestimating Instagram Reels. Instagram may be becoming more of an entertainment app like TikTok but it is still a social network. All content creators care about is engagement, and having the ability to push your short video into your Stories and your follower’s main feed increases your chances of it being seen instead of relying on an algorithm.
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jlykinsabout 4 years ago
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skybrianabout 4 years ago
It sounds like a tremendous amount of creativity, but limited in scope to making videos? It seems kind of narrowly focused on entertainment.
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adventuredabout 4 years ago
The author is very incorrect.<p>&gt; By network effects of creativity, I mean that every additional user on TikTok makes every other user more creative.<p>That is false.<p>TikTok isn&#x27;t a creativity amplification network, it&#x27;s a mimic network. The extreme majority of humans are mimics, they essentially never create or do anything creative or original. They are incapable of that (cue the outrage at such a statement, even though it&#x27;s true). They play follow the leader across a lifetime. TikTok, like most social networks, represents that accurately. What TikTok does not represent, is a burst of individual creativity that is widespread.<p>It&#x27;s a creativity distribution channel. The 0.01% that are originators distribute creativity to the drone mimics and they copy and share it.<p>That&#x27;s exactly what the dance copying represents for example. There is no great creativity explosion going on there, quite the opposite. As with YouTube or any other distribution system, an exceptionally tiny percentage of people are originators, actually creative, the rest mimic and pander and try to scam their way to some views by copying or ripping off originators (you see this repeating trend represented in everything, eg content farms).
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xtiansimonabout 4 years ago
Eugene Wei on a16z podcast <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;a16z.com&#x2F;author&#x2F;eugene-wei&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;a16z.com&#x2F;author&#x2F;eugene-wei&#x2F;</a>