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Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

207 pointsby sandipcalmost 14 years ago

28 comments

callahadalmost 14 years ago
Hallelujah! "OS X Lion [Terminal] includes editable ANSI colors in preferences and support for 256 colors and BCE (background color erase). The default TERM value is xterm-256color."<p>Cite: <a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html#unix" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html#unix</a>
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mortenjorckalmost 14 years ago
This App Store-only distribution has me concerned about small business upgrades.<p>Let's say I have an office with 10 workstations. How do I upgrade? Do I have to create an iTunes account for each computer, and enter a company credit card number on each one? Can multiple iTunes accounts even share the same credit card number?<p>Perhaps I could get by with two accounts, since iTunes allows sharing on up to five Macs. But that's still far from an elegant solution, and it doesn't scale any better. And what about users who already have their workstations activated with their home iTunes accounts?
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mark_l_watsonalmost 14 years ago
The download only distribution will be a nuisance for 64G SSD MacBook Airs like my wife's laptop. She often only has 5 or 10 GB of free disk space.
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followeralmost 14 years ago
4GB isn't insignificant in countries with bandwidth caps.
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tvonalmost 14 years ago
dsplittgerber seems to have a valid point, though one that is understood by anyone who has followed Apple for long. Still, unsure why the comment is [dead].<p><a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2625727" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2625727</a><p>To respond, Apple has never had a problem re-implementing a 3rd party app and integrating it into the system, Dashboard is a classic example of this. It's a bit hostile towards 3rd party developers, but generally good for users (at least that's the argument).
thomasgerbealmost 14 years ago
Great news.<p>Now if only they just did away with the optical drives on MBP's. I have used mine about... twice in three years since owning my current laptop.
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rythiealmost 14 years ago
Title is misleading, $29.99 to zero decimal places is $30 not $29.
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vault_almost 14 years ago
There's a complete list of new features here: <a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html</a><p>To address the concerns of re-installation, they're including a partition with the system install disk on it (which can get to Time Machine or whatever else you need).
config_ymlalmost 14 years ago
It's only available through the Mac App Store. So how can people upgrade from 10.5 without going the extra step to 10.6, which is required for the app store?
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koenigdavidmjalmost 14 years ago
I wonder how much of a wrench in the works that will be for Hackintosh people.
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furyg3almost 14 years ago
Hmm... so what happens if my hard drive crashes and I replace it myself?
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Newkyalmost 14 years ago
I don't mean to be off topic, but I really feel, although this is an improvement on the price of Windows upgrade, I think that there is nothing in this release that would drive me off any Linux, particularly a rolling release distribution.<p>I know that for certain fields, such as multimedia, apple offers a lot, but with new offerings such as Gnome 3, a mature KDE 4, and Ubuntu's unity, for the standard desktop user or developer for that matter, I argue that Linux should enthrall and for one of the first times the difference in price tag isn't the only plus. Stability, Safety and polish are quickly becoming relevant keywords for Linux desktops.<p>Although the new Unity and Gnome Shell may lack the stability, you can always fall back on the watertight Gnome default desktop.
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wildmXranatalmost 14 years ago
Will they offer a usb stick option for $29 ?
Groxxalmost 14 years ago
&#62;<i>Resize from any edge<p>You can now resize a window from any side or corner.</i><p>Interesting that they <i>did</i> finally do this. And without adding huge-ass borders to everything...
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frou_dhalmost 14 years ago
If Lion supports TRIM for all SSDs, I want to zap my Intel drive and do a fresh install so that there are no mystery regions on the drive.<p>I hope a normal DVD will be available on the quiet.
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dongshengalmost 14 years ago
Oh come on apple now we have to do everything through your stores?
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aryalmost 14 years ago
After all the talk about delta updates in the keynote I had hoped that Time Machine would be doing file deltas now. A read through the Lion features page doesn't turn anything up. Anyone know?
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toomanymikealmost 14 years ago
Curious for one of my favorite apps, can anyone comment on BetterTouchTool (<a href="http://www.boastr.de/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boastr.de/</a>) quality on the new build?
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iramilleralmost 14 years ago
Has anyone seen references to how the server tools will be distributed? The rumor mill had indicated that there would be a mac app store version but I have not seen a confirmation on if these pieces are in the regular 10.7 upgrade or not.<p>The server edition of 10.6 was $500 and distinct from the $29 regular edition so I am expecting a separate paid download to be required...
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ojillesalmost 14 years ago
"Auto setup for Gmail and Yahoo! in Mail[.app]<p>When you first log in to your Google, Yahoo!, or AOL accounts in Safari, you’ll have the option to use them with Mail, iCal, Address Book, iChat, and other applications on your Mac."<p>Thats pretty smart to keep Mail.app relevant in the web age! (I hope it handles "guest" logins on the web gracefully though!)
MatthewPhillipsalmost 14 years ago
Really wish this was coming out sooner. I plan on getting the Samsung Chromebook on the 16th, which will be my primary "fun" computer. I'll keep my Macbook for development, but I'm not sure I'll use it in the way that these consumer features are meant for. If it was coming on now I'd go ahead and get it just to play around with. Now I don't know.
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jevinskiealmost 14 years ago
It will be interesting to see how the OS installs over itself now that it is being distributed through the app store. I wonder if they will create a new partition with the installer and reboot into it.
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eapenalmost 14 years ago
While they are at it, I am surprised Apple didn’t integrate LaunchBar/QuickSilver/Alfred functionality into Lion (and take those guys out). It would go really well with the full screen apps.
enterneoalmost 14 years ago
any news on whether it is for 64-bit processors ONLY? my core-solo mac mini wants to know :-S
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blinkingledalmost 14 years ago
Finally high res larger cursor that is crisp.<p>The other updates/features are looking solid too. Well worth the $29.99.
recoiledsnakealmost 14 years ago
Not sure why below comment is dead. The account seems ok and not hell banned. Was it flagged to death? If so, anyone who flagged it,why?<p>dsplittgerber 24 minutes ago | link [dead]<p>Anyone else surprised by how many hugely popular apps Apple is going to kill with new Lion/iOS? Instapaper built-into Safari now, all kinds of messanger apps killed by iMessage, some of those photo apps going down the drain as well, Reminders app is a huge one as well. All targeting really popular app categories.<p>Sure, some people care about thing X being done supremely well and will still pay for some apps. But the huge majority will probably be really fine with Apples version.
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recoiledsnakealmost 14 years ago
&#62;This isn’t actually the first time Apple has offered an OS upgrade at a steep discount compared to its Windows rival (which typically runs over $100) — Snow Leopard made its debut at $29.<p>A pretty flawed apples to oranges comparison. OS X is more similar to bios updates... you buy the hardware, the vendor makes money off it and gives away the software. With Microsoft, you're paying the OEM money for the hardware(with razor thin margins usually but that's another story), so Microsoft doesn't make bank on expensive hardware and upgrades to RAM/HDD/CPU that Apple makes.<p>Edit: Not to mention that 10.5 to 10.7 is not upgradeable, you have to buy and install 10.6 first, install the App Store and then install 10.7. Windows 7 may not be upgradeable directly from XP without a format, but atleast you don't have to but and upgrade to Vista first!
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jrockwayalmost 14 years ago
I love the Apple hype cycle: an incremental OS update for $29, and it's one of the most-commented HN articles of the day.<p>I get an incremental OS update every day for free. It's called apt-get. After you've done it every day for nearly 15 years, it gets a little old...<p>What's next, a central Mac software repository? (Oh yeah, "the Mac app store". Innovation!)