Maybe slightly unrelated to the main topic, but:<p>> If you’re worried about mail deliverability issues, don’t be — it’s more or less a myth in $CURRENTYEAR. If you set up DKIM properly and unlist your IP address from the DNSBLs (a simple process), then your mails will get through.<p>Does this match most people's experience? Or is he just talking about the deliverability of smaller providers like Migadu? I run my own mail server and can never send emails to people on Gmail/Microsoft 365/etc unless it's in reply to an email that I received.<p>I've checked DKIM and the DNSBLs, and everything seems correct...is it just a matter of not having enough volume for email providers to trust me?
It's very similar to my experience.<p>50% of spam come from a valid gmail account, as in, using gmail smtp server, come from gmail origin(.google.com reverse dns) have valid DKIM. The only way to filter out spam is look at the content and run some simple ML on it.<p>50% of spam come from non .com TLDs such as .cam .work from random servers around the world: China, Bulgari, Hungari, France, Germany...<p>But it's very easy to block other TLDs because their IP are on DNSBL already. But what can I do with gmail? Gmail IP get on DNSBL all the time.<p>Example: 209.85.222.196 is listed right now on spam.dnsbl.sorbs.net and ips.backscatterer.org<p>But at the same time, this is just the nature of an email service. If we have a large user base then no matter what we do, a small percentage of users are abuser which are successfully to send out spam using our services before we can detect and ban them.<p>On AWS SES, they requires user to keep a reputation of less than 0.1% emails flagged as spam. Go over than that and you will be put on a review queue. Reach 5% and get banned permanently.<p>But before that occurs, spam are send out already.
I'm confused. What, exactly, is the author looking for Google to do about these "spam registrations"?<p>The abuse problem that an identity provider can solve is bulk account creation, but a) they are already doing a better job of it than any other free identity provider, b) given how low the numbers in the post are, this is clearly not any kind of bulk account issue.<p>(Also, not stating either the total number of suspensions or the proportion of suspensions that are for gmail seems like a conspicuous omission. The author states that 41% of all registrations are from gmail, and the absolute highest proportion of spammy registrations is 63%.)
Only slightly related but it seems Google has also become very bad at filtering spam too? I keep getting agency spam from Indian companies, all with very similar characteristics (HTML emails for IT jobs in the US, where I don't live, from Indian companies). I marked hundreds of them as spam, and even a basic bayesian filter would be able to easily filter this but somehow gmail let it all go through.
Anecdotally, my inbox is filled with spam from google forms. Somehow scammers are convincing google forms to send me an email with their message. I imagine it is difficult for my provider to distinguish spam google forms emails from non-spam.
So, gmail makes up 41% of registrations and also a large percentage of suspended accounts? This doesn't seem very surprising to me. Also, for me, just because an account was "suspended" doesn't mean it was spam.
I guess I'm just lucky. My current personal spam corpus goes back to 2019-05-30. Of the 39454 messages only 80 of them have a ".google.com" server as the immediately preceding "Received:" hop.
It is unclear if Gmail is proportionally any worse than the others. Is the 119 suspended accounts more or less than 41% of the total number of suspended accounts?
I recently migrated off of Gmail and noticed an immediate increase in the amount of spam I receive from Gmail senders.<p>> I’ve forwarded many, many reports to abuse@gmail.com, but…<p>Not sure if it makes much difference but I’ve been using this form instead:<p><a href="https://support.google.com/mail/contact/abuse" rel="nofollow">https://support.google.com/mail/contact/abuse</a>
>> 5X as many spam registrations on sourcehut are from gmail than from the second-largest offender.<p>Wow, I'm looking at Google in new way now.
Recently in the last 6 months Gmail has gotten significantly worse in filtering out spam, I'll get really strange messages showing up in my inbox, where the red ssl ({{domain}} did not encrypt this message) shows up. It's quite frustrating