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U.S. asks Google for detailed search data in antitrust case

239 pointsby johncena33about 4 years ago

9 comments

tyingqabout 4 years ago
Should be interesting to compare to the internally squashed FTC report here: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;graphics.wsj.com&#x2F;google-ftc-report&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;graphics.wsj.com&#x2F;google-ftc-report&#x2F;</a>
dalbasalabout 4 years ago
What&#x27;s the goal or endgame for these antitrust cases...<p>If antitrust is entirely delegated to courts, it&#x27;s hard to see how it ever becomes more than a &quot;compliance&quot; issue. Fines and&#x2F;or mandatory adjustments to current MOs. That&#x27;s hardly trustbusting.<p>The big pieces aren&#x27;t a secret. Market share, the big competitive dynamics, income streams and overall structure of the search-ads &quot;industry&quot; and its adjacent, also Google dominated markets like android, youtube and chrome.<p>How is a judge supposed to decide what to do about all this... Seems like the wrong tool for the job.
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yawaworht1978about 4 years ago
I think the government is requesting a date range simply to compare the data to what they already think to know.
whatgoodisaroadabout 4 years ago
I&#x27;m torn between whether I should distrust this site because it&#x27;s pretending to be associated with Bloomberg ... or if I should distrust this website because it may actually be associated with Bloomberg.
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endisneighabout 4 years ago
For the sake of discussion let&#x27;s just say Google is broken up. Let&#x27;s also say that it&#x27;s broken up such that Google Search, Google Ads, and YouTube are separate entities (among others).<p>In this new broken up set of companies, what&#x27;s stopping them from remerging like Bell? Also, what&#x27;s stopping them from giving each other favorable partnerships?<p>Personally I find this entire exercise a waste of time - rather than break up Google we should just acknowledge that certain industries have certain types of attributes that result in necessarily &quot;anti-competitive&quot; behavior. In Google&#x27;s case, since it&#x27;s an internet company I would say the more users it has the harder it is to beat - with that being said they should just create some sort of progressive taxation as a function of users.<p>Your users in the USA equal 90%+ of the country, you are subject to rules A. Your users in the USA equal to &lt;10%? You are subject to rules B and are subsidized directly by those whose users equal 90%+. If all companies are less than 50% than we use rules c, for example.<p>The same logic could be used for manufacturing, utilities, internet providers, and more.
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unyttigfjelltolabout 4 years ago
Does this mean the content of Google searches now will be sent directly to the U.S. gov&#x27;t and state gov&#x27;ts? It seems like the kind of privacy intrusion that would concern everyday people.
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brainwadabout 4 years ago
If Google is prohibited from paying for default search engine status, because it is judged a monopoly, will that condemn us all to default Yahoo or Bing, like Firefox tried a few years ago? Google should at least be able to match the top bid of its competitors, so that device manufaturers &#x2F; browser developers can make a pro-user choice (i.e. Google) without losing revenue.
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xiphias2about 4 years ago
I have problems with many things that Google is doing, but making Google the default search engine everywhere is not one of them.
jeffbeeabout 4 years ago
LOL 30 days. Even a Googler who wanted that data would be waiting a minimum of half a year before anyone from the logs access rotation even glanced at their ticket.<p>Plus, one wonders if Google even holds the data the US government is requesting.<p>Plusplus, I hate it when &quot;granular&quot; is used as if it has a direction, which it does not. Are the feds asking for fine-grained data, or coarse-grained data?
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