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Namecheap just snaked another domain off me

51 pointsby DDerTypabout 4 years ago

14 comments

paulgbabout 4 years ago
It&#x27;s worth noting that this happened on the very day that .quest became generally available[1].<p>I think it&#x27;s a case of first-day demand, not somebody picking good domains from Namecheap&#x27;s logs.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;icannwiki.org&#x2F;.quest" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;icannwiki.org&#x2F;.quest</a><p>Edit: technically the next day UTC, but the same day where I am.
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40fourabout 4 years ago
People have been claiming this forever about various domain registrars, and I just don&#x27;t buy it. I think people play a logical trick on themselves, or succumb to paranoia, or similar.<p>They are in the business of selling domains. That means volume is king. They want to move as many units as possible. The idea that they would &#x27;steal&#x27; a domain from you right before you were about to pay them money for it is absurd.<p>They would only be stealing from themselves, by purposefully denying a sale they were about to make. They receive no value by taking domains and sitting on them, or speculating or whatever. They <i>do</i> receive value by making a sale. Sounds like a good way to lose money.<p>It&#x27;s much more likely that 10,000 other people had the same idea to get something as popular as &#x27;dnd.quest&#x27;, than Namecheap &#x27;stole&#x27; if from them while it was in their shopping cart.
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donmcronaldabout 4 years ago
The Namecheap CEO has unequivocally stated they don’t do this. My impression of them is that they’ve bought a lot of goodwill by landing on what I consider to be the right side of a lot of domain related debates.<p>Losing out in the gold rush on a new TLD doesn’t mean Namecheap cheated you. Right?
Youdenabout 4 years ago
Namecheap posted an update [0]:<p>&quot;UPDATE:<p>&quot;Wanted to provide an update on this. As you may or may not know, .quest launched this week, and this is a 3 letter domain on top of that, hence the demand. The registrant of this domain is on our platform but is only a customer who historically has purchased domains in a similar vein. As I said earlier, our platform has never been known to register domains after lookup, nor do we share this data with any third parties.<p>&quot;We have confirmed that the registrant has no affiliation whatsoever with our staff or any of our partners.<p>&quot;Further, to discuss the logs, the registrant added it to their cart immediately after searching for it, at 2021-03-03 00:18:13.566638 UTC. The OP searched for it but never added it to his cart, looking for it literally a minute before the person who actually registered it checked out (at 2021-03-03 00:17:38.875854 UTC).<p>&quot;This was merely a coincidence, as we do process hundreds of thousands of domain searches per day.<p>&quot;Hope that clarifies.&quot;<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;webdev&#x2F;comments&#x2F;lwgrkz&#x2F;namecheap_just_snaked_another_domain_off_me&#x2F;gpjpy2k&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;webdev&#x2F;comments&#x2F;lwgrkz&#x2F;namecheap_ju...</a>
blakesterzabout 4 years ago
Someone who claims to work at NC responded down that thread saying &quot;Hi - I&#x27;ll look into this further as I work with Namecheap, but we don&#x27;t have a history of doing this as you state.&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;webdev&#x2F;comments&#x2F;lwgrkz&#x2F;namecheap_just_snaked_another_domain_off_me&#x2F;gphflie&#x2F;?context=3" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;webdev&#x2F;comments&#x2F;lwgrkz&#x2F;namecheap_ju...</a><p>Based on the account history, it does look like they work there.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;tamar" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;tamar</a>
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smt88about 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve never had this happen in 20 years of buying hundreds of domains and searches for thousands. I&#x27;ve been exclusively using NameCheap for 5ish years now, too.<p>The business model doesn&#x27;t even make sense. How many domains would Namecheap be rolling the dice on if they did this after a <i>single</i> search?<p>If billions of domain searches happen every year, we&#x27;re going to see quite a few coincidences like this. An anecdote is not proof, and it&#x27;s not like this domain (dnd.quest) was incredibly unique.
ziml77about 4 years ago
The people in that thread need to loosen their tinfoil hats. Namecheap didn&#x27;t steal anything. dnd.quest is certainly one of the most wanted among everyone who was buying a .quest domain. Do these people not understand just how many people there are who are thinking the same thing as them?
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emddudleyabout 4 years ago
I just tried to buy wow.quest 2 minutes ago and it feels like the same thing just happened to me. Between me searching and checking out it got registered:<p><pre><code> Registrar URL: https:&#x2F;&#x2F;namecheap.com Updated Date: 2021-03-03T14:30:25.0Z Creation Date: 2021-03-03T14:30:20.0Z Registry Expiry Date: 2022-03-03T23:59:59.0Z </code></pre> Namecheap gave me a &quot;Oops, looks like the domain was taken by someone else, so we removed the domain from your cart.&quot;
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Sidetalkerabout 4 years ago
If they&#x27;re really doing this (and I don&#x27;t particularly doubt it) someone should script up a little bot to search for domain names that are likely to trigger the mechanism. Find word clouds around some of the newer domains like .quest with characters under a certain limit...<p>...or perhaps that&#x27;s feeding the beast and namecheap will be thanking us in 5 years when people are knocking down their doors for the hot domains we generated.
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bilekasabout 4 years ago
If this is the case, and it has happened already to the OP.. How could you have confidence going BACK to namecheap for it to happen again..
Geeeabout 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve always thought that Namecheap is one of the good guys. I&#x27;ll wait for an answer from them, before judging.
josefrescoabout 4 years ago
Do people not know about Domain &quot;front running&quot;? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Domain_name_front_running" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Domain_name_front_running</a><p>It&#x27;s been &quot;a thing&quot; for years and has changed the way I search for domains.
detayabout 4 years ago
i lost ftuff.com over them (just skip a renewal) and they&#x27;re trying to sell it back for 10k
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hfjtktkgkgmabout 4 years ago
This never happened to me, and I bought a number of short domains.<p>That would imply that they only snatch some domains. But in that case, if they had a way to determine which domains are valuable, why would they wait for a search in the first place?<p>Also, this is the kind of scam that is quick to ruin a company reputation, snatch a few valuable domains, but then lose tens of thousands of registrations because people start avoid you.