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Webmention.io

397 pointsby bezelbuttonsabout 4 years ago

22 comments

ivan_ahabout 4 years ago
Oooh I like a lot.<p>The whole idea of a two-way links like the wp pingbacks in the good old days is getting traction. For more info about this, see <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;indieweb.org&#x2F;Webmention" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;indieweb.org&#x2F;Webmention</a> and <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Linkback" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Linkback</a><p>Another useful related thing I saw is <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brid.gy&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brid.gy&#x2F;</a> which transforms social mentions into webmentions
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xrdabout 4 years ago
At first, I didn&#x27;t get it. Pingbacks, isn&#x27;t that from the 90s?<p>Then, I thought: does this mean the bar for joining a conversation on my publication is that you have to publish something too?<p>That seems like a nice bar to set for asking both parties in a conversation to be fully engaged. Trolls seem like they will be too lazy to do that.
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dbeleyabout 4 years ago
I&#x27;m too young to know what are webmentions or pingbacks (love the band Pinback though), you should briefly mention what they are on your homepage.
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incanus77about 4 years ago
Excellent concept, project &amp; service. I&#x27;m using it together with Brid.gy[1] on my Hugo-hosted blog[2] and it&#x27;s great for bringing in Twitter likes of posts.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brid.gy&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brid.gy&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;justinmiller.io&#x2F;posts&#x2F;2020&#x2F;12&#x2F;23&#x2F;ornament&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;justinmiller.io&#x2F;posts&#x2F;2020&#x2F;12&#x2F;23&#x2F;ornament&#x2F;</a>
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jamesvandyneabout 4 years ago
Webmentions are a great way of getting back to a decentralized web. Being able to comment on someone else&#x27;s site _from your own site_ feels like magic. It brings back memories of the web before social media took hold.<p>Implementation is pretty simple, too. I documented how I handled processing and display of webmentions on <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;tanzawa.blog" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;tanzawa.blog</a> (a system I&#x27;m developing designed to make using the IndieWeb easier&#x2F;less fiddly).
pcthrowawayabout 4 years ago
So here&#x27;s my question: HN as far as I can tell doesn&#x27;t explicitly integrate with webmention, but I&#x27;m assuming webmention.io <i>does</i> use it. Does that mean the owner @aaronpk <i>does</i> get a mention every time webmention is linked, say, from Hacker News? The docs don&#x27;t make it clear, but if in fact, it does, this seems like a killer concept for HN users who want to be notified (among other times) when their service&#x2F;blog&#x2F;whatever is shared to HN<p>edit: Also, why doesn&#x27;t webmention.io display its own mentions to utilize the two-way communication it advertises? Seems like a no-brainer to show prospective users an example of it working in action
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alvarlagerlofabout 4 years ago
And what is a &quot;web mention&quot;?
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nfozabout 4 years ago
Not meant to flame: why do people want these? They always just seemed like spam cluttering up an article&#x27;s comments, removing the space for actual discussion.
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Klonoarabout 4 years ago
I don&#x27;t have anything against jQuery, but isn&#x27;t it a bit weird to have that be the example in 2020? Wouldn&#x27;t `fetch` just work fine there...?
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jazzidoabout 4 years ago
IIRC, the first incarnation of this was proposed and implemented around 2002 by Six Apart. It was called &quot;trackback&quot;.
wimlabout 4 years ago
Previous discussion on HN, &quot;Grow the IndieWeb with Webmentions&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=26258557" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=26258557</a>
vorpalhexabout 4 years ago
So how long before this gets used for spam ala pingbacks?
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notimpotentabout 4 years ago
Not exactly the same, but I&#x27;ve been using <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;f5bot.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;f5bot.com&#x2F;</a> for a while now. Sends me a notification any time specified keywords are found on Reddit, HN, etc. Great service with no fees.
nynxabout 4 years ago
I feel like this needs to be more of a browser extension than a per-site thing. You&#x27;d be able to see all the places that link to this page that have been created or seen by a group that you&#x27;re in.
muppetmanabout 4 years ago
Why does this want permission to read my tweets? That wasn&#x27;t clear at all putting my website and clicking the submit button. I&#x27;m sure it&#x27;s fine, but I didn&#x27;t grant it and backed out.
rasulkireevabout 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve been using Webmention.io on my own site (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rasulkireev.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;rasulkireev.com</a>) and it works beautifully.<p>A lot of frameworks and static site builders have a plugin to integrate webmentions on one site.<p>I believe this came from the Indieweb movement, which I am a huge fun of.
oneeyedpigeonabout 4 years ago
So, this is a service that acts as a proxy for webmentions, right? I&#x27;m guessing a good use case would be for a static site e.g. hosted on github pages?
toygabout 4 years ago
Pingbacks are back, baby! What is old is new again, except this time is centralized, so hopefully with less spam but also less independence once FAANG acquire the service.
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crazypythonabout 4 years ago
How do I insert a comments section with Webmention? What HTML do I add? Preferably via dynamic JS so it&#x27;s self-updating.
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zuhayeerabout 4 years ago
Reminds me of f5bot.com, which doesn&#x27;t require two-way tracking of mentions on Reddit &#x2F; HN &#x2F; Lobsters
swyxabout 4 years ago
tip for those considering this - i use clientside webmentions for this so that it doesnt add to my build times - and lazy load it so it doesnt drain visitor battery&#x2F;data:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.swyx.io&#x2F;clientside-webmentions&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.swyx.io&#x2F;clientside-webmentions&#x2F;</a>
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johnorourkeabout 4 years ago
Obligatory mention: reminds me of the syndication element of project Xanadu.