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Why Mormons Make Great FBI Recruits

22 pointsby onetimemanytimeabout 4 years ago

5 comments

penetraitor69about 4 years ago
Speaking as a (now-ex) mormon, this is a very flattering characterization that unfortunately skips over a couple important points.<p>For one, mormonism is a <i>very</i> conservative religion. From blacks voting to gays marrying, the church&#x27;s stance is &quot;morality peaked in the early 1800s, and everything since then has been backsliding&quot;. It is also a very America-centric religion, implicitly and explicitly teaching manifest destiny: that America&#x27;s founding was ordained by god specifically to facilitate the church&#x27;s &quot;restoration&quot; (mormonism maintains that it is the &quot;original christianity&quot; practiced by ancient hebrews, don&#x27;t think about that too hard), that Columbus and the founding fathers were all moral paragons, divinely inspired to that end. It&#x27;s very insular; you can scarcely go a sunday without some warning about Lastly, it is a religion with a very top-down command structure; &quot;obeying your leaders, even if they&#x27;re wrong, will bring blessings from god&quot; is an explicit teaching.<p>So it should come as no surprise that Utah suffers from some of the highest rates of affinity fraud in the nation; mormonism is good at making hard workers who obey orders; it&#x27;s not so great at producing independent thinkers or whistleblowers who&#x27;ll hold their bosses accountable, nor who will think twice about maintaining the status quo. Those who <i>do</i> break that mold are unlikely to fit in with their mormon peers, assuming they don&#x27;t just leave on their own (which about 2&#x2F;3rds of then do).<p>Naturally, if you&#x27;re running a federal agency with a questionable history, tasked with maintaining the state of the union, that&#x27;s exactly what you&#x27;re looking for: a rule follower and order obey-er, not some &quot;free spirit&quot; who could blow the lid off of whatever scheme you&#x27;re cooking up that week.
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yellowappleabout 4 years ago
Having at one point been Mormon myself...<p>The things that make Mormons great FBI agents also can be a double-edged sword. The stronger the devotion to the Church, the greater leverage for blackmail; anything that could preclude one from a temple recommend (or, even more severely, result in excommunication) can be used against a follower - be the naughty deeds actual or fabricated. This is less effective against higher-ranking members in the church (bishops, let alone <i>their</i> superiors up to the Quorum and the President, are well-positioned to be able to brush scandals under the rug), but could be absolutely devastating to your average Sister or Elder who could suddenly find oneself shunned by one&#x27;s community and even one&#x27;s own family. If I were a spy trying to compromise a Mormon FBI agent, that&#x27;s exactly where I&#x27;d start: get some dirt, threaten to send it to the agent&#x27;s bishop or disseminate it throughout one&#x27;s Ward, and get cooperation.
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hu3about 4 years ago
&gt; Mormons end up in these agencies for perfectly logical reasons. The disproportionate number of Mormons is usually chalked up to three factors: Mormon people often have strong foreign language skills, from missions overseas; a relatively easy time getting security clearances, given their abstention from drugs and alcohol; and a willingness to serve.<p>Sounds like a no-brainer indeed.
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senectus1about 4 years ago
having lived with a very nice family of Mormons for about 9 months once... this seems to fit.<p>the problem is they are quite simply <i>disconnected</i> from reality, and all the culture they subscribe to only re-enforces that disconnection. They see themselves as being in a world but not of it. the gentle well meaning and polite arrogance is astounding to be immersed in.<p>I would be second guessing everything they say and report back on.
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doggodaddo78about 4 years ago
Having worked with Mormons and attended a high school next to a tabernacle, this makes sense: they are often the squarest, most boring, and helpful people around. (They often do think they&#x27;re better than everyone else though.) My only problem is that hiring too many people from a magical thinking belief system maybe expedient, but it creates a monoculture and is lunacy.