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Duolingo's language notes all on one page

266 pointsby rococodeabout 4 years ago

16 comments

gpantazesabout 4 years ago
As a Duolingo user, I am pleasantly surprised to find this site today. This site seems to ~~solve~~ mitigate problems I&#x27;ve been having with tips (or more accurately, lack of tip accessibility on the iOS app for certain languages).<p>To be honest, I&#x27;ve never really thought about viewing all tips on the same page, although that is very convenient. A fine feature that should probably be adopted by Duolingo as well.<p>The convenient one-page format ~~solves~~ mitigates a different issue I&#x27;ve been having lately though. Duolingo doesn&#x27;t consistently publish (existing!) tips to all Duolingo frontends&#x2F;apps. Well-supported languages get the best tip-content support, but languages that aren&#x27;t as supported sometimes don&#x27;t have tip present even if the tip content exists.<p>For example:<p>- Duolingo Web always has tips if tip content exists. This acts like a source of truth, as far as I&#x27;m aware.<p>- Spanish is a language which has tip content both on Web and iOS. I believe this is because Spanish is popular and well-supported.<p>- Greek is a language where tip content is not accessible via the iOS app, but is present on the web site. I believe this is because incorporating the presentation of tips is probably some hardcoded markup thing (React?) and nobody has gotten around to doing it yet. Also, there&#x27;s a possibility that the underlying documents need different rendering treatment or style enforcement, and have been omitted from the mobile app on purpose. Still, this is a thorn in my side.<p>So for me, a one-page-tips fills a gap in the Duolingo UX (which should probably probably be fixed on Duolingo&#x27;s end since this simply seems to be a prioritization&#x2F;maintenance&#x2F;time&#x2F;effort problem).<p>As a user, I&#x27;d like an easy way to refer to the tips before each lesson without pulling up the actual Duolingo web app - otherwise, why don&#x27;t I just do my actual lessons on the web app as well? Usually I&#x27;m doing lessons on my phone, not my computer, because the phone is not only more convenient (small) but it&#x27;s easier to change keyboards and type in non-latin alphabets.
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westurnerabout 4 years ago
Succinct. What a useful reference.<p>An IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) reference would be helpful, too. After taking linguistics in college, I found these Sozo videos of US english IPA consonants and vowels that simultaneously show {the ipa symbol, example words, someone visually and auditorily producing the phoneme from 2 angles, and the spectrogram of the waveform} but a few or a configurable number of [spaced] repetitions would be helpful: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Sw36F_UcIn8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Sw36F_UcIn8</a><p>IDK how cartoonish or 3d of an &quot;articulatory phonetic&quot; model would reach the widest audience. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Articulatory_phonetics" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Articulatory_phonetics</a><p>IPA chart: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;International_Phonetic_Alphabet_chart" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;International_Phonetic_Alphabe...</a><p>IPA chart with audio: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;IPA_vowel_chart_with_audio" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;IPA_vowel_chart_with_audio</a><p>All of the IPA consonant chart played as a video: &quot;International Phonetic Alphabet Consonant sounds (Pulmonic)- From Wikipedia.org&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;yFAITaBr6Tw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;yFAITaBr6Tw</a><p>I&#x27;ll have to find the link of the site where they playback youtube videos with multiple languages&#x27; subtitles highlighted side-by-side along with the video.
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jimkleiberabout 4 years ago
When I was learning Swahili while living in Tanzania, I used the Teach Yourself series and it really helped me. I loved how it had such a strong focus on grammar.<p>Similarly, I think I will love this link. I didn&#x27;t like having to click through Duolingo&#x27;s gamified structure to get at the grammatical rules, and I&#x27;ve also struggled to find such coherent sets of grammar on other websites. Maybe Duolingo is less gamified than it was before, and yet, I still think I will love having all of the grammar lessons in one spot.<p>Thank you for building this!
ngokevinabout 4 years ago
I always wondered why the grammar notes were so hidden in the app. I didn&#x27;t even know they existed. Does anyone else know resources that list language grammar rules in one page?<p>I hope this is relevant enough to plug, but if anyone&#x27;s learning a language because they have a partner that speaks it, I&#x27;m working on a project for couples learning each other&#x27;s languages: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;learncoupling.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;learncoupling.com</a>
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jimbob45about 4 years ago
Not a bad idea to skim through the appropriate page when you’re starting a program to avoid the inevitable gotchas. The Spanish one would have instantly solved my confusion over the idiomatic “buenos dias”.
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kginabout 4 years ago
Amazing how much clearer it is having this all in one place and not just sprinkled like bacon bits across a million screens.
yellowappleabout 4 years ago
The hints around how letters should be pronounced are a killer feature on their own. I&#x27;ve been on-and-off learning Ukranian, and the expectation that I should magically know how to make heads or tails of Cyrillic is a pretty big oversight. The link to that Peace Corps reference is something I wish I had when starting out, and now that I have a bit of a more solid reference for that sort of fundamental knowledge, I feel like it&#x27;ll be a lot less frustrating getting through the courses.<p>Seems weird that these hints ain&#x27;t readily accessible from the Android app.
dominotwabout 4 years ago
You can do bunch of cool stuff on there too like view your profile<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;duome.eu&#x2F;&lt;profile-name&gt;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;duome.eu&#x2F;&lt;profile-name&gt;</a><p>compare yourself to other profiles ect.
nojvekabout 4 years ago
After seeing this. An AI neural net I want to see is if it can take a whole bunch of English -&gt; language input:output training docs and churn out a guide like this. Bonus points if the guide is machine computable as a tiny program that can be used as a dictionary, noun conversion, plural conversion etc.<p>Our neural networks are insanely huge blackboxes. If they can churn out inspectable code and guides like humans can, I’d be a huge believer.
agluszakabout 4 years ago
Not that I love Duolingo, but isn&#x27;t that copyright infringement? Are this &quot;notes&quot; simply copied from the app?
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daggerdroneabout 4 years ago
How come Spanish is so short as compared to French. Even German and Dutch pages are really long.
DC-3about 4 years ago
Cool, I guess. But you&#x27;re probably better off just downloading a real textbook. The PDFs aren&#x27;t hard to find.
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colordropsabout 4 years ago
There are tips for Arabic? Only see them for spanish but none appear to be available for Arabic. Must be a bug.
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CivBaseabout 4 years ago
Thanks! I&#x27;m using Duolingo and I&#x27;m sure I&#x27;ll get some extra use from this.
quattrofanabout 4 years ago
I love Duolingo but they really drop the ball it making it great and not just good. Why can&#x27;t I bookmark useful info, see it all in one place, share stuff etc. This solves onr of those.
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Const-meabout 4 years ago
The CSS is less than ideal. I clicked “Japanese”, and despite I have a 4k display with 150% DPI scaling, difference between す and ず is barely visible.<p>It’s totally OK here on HN because 99.9% is English, but I think this is quite important for language learners.
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