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Police raids across Europe after encrypted phone network shut down

63 pointsby reddotXabout 4 years ago

5 comments

chmod775about 4 years ago
This article is so full of vague information and flat-out wrong information, I recommend reading another one.<p>It reads like it&#x27;s written by someone who skimmed three other news articles without really comprehending what&#x27;s going on, then wrote whatever.<p>Police never &quot;shut down&quot; Sky ECC, especially not prior to the raid.
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captainmuonabout 4 years ago
Reading about this, I wonder if there is a market for legitimate secure phones, i.e. not marketed towards criminals. Businesses are afraid of industrial espionage. Political activists are afraid of persecution (and yes, it can also happen in the west, even if you are doing &quot;good&quot; things and are non-violent).<p>The defenses in both cases can be quite different. For some people, a cheap Chromebook that you can wipe quickly plus 2FA gives great security, or using a modern (encrypted) phone with Signal. But what if you are, say, protesting against the construction of a new Google campus on top of your neighborhood? Then you&#x27;d don&#x27;t want all your secret stuff on their infrastructure. Normally you assume everybody is playing fair, but it would be so easy for them to push out a malicious update to your phone to gather dirt on you.<p>If one has experience with AOSP and security, there seems to be a market for an open, secure phone. But I wonder how you&#x27;d keep the organized crime out, or at least keep plausible deniability to not get into trouble...
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aliyfarahabout 4 years ago
This may be a dumb question, but is there any reason why these crime groups don&#x27;t just use Signal? I understand a phone number is required upon registration but a burner sim could be used and discarded for that purpose.
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JustFinishedBSGabout 4 years ago
Again ?<p>After Encrochat[1], Criminals in Netherland&#x2F;France&#x2F;Belgium are really the dumbest around. I mean, good for us ? Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice...<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;EncroChat" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;EncroChat</a>
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rubatugaabout 4 years ago
Lol they probably would have been caught sooner if they used PGP
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