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Leaked memo shows Amazon knows delivery drivers resort to urinating in bottles

84 pointsby scottbucksabout 4 years ago

6 comments

omginternetsabout 4 years ago
I recognize that labor laws are a complicated subject, and I recognize that their advocates don&#x27;t always have the best interests of workers at heart. Nevertheless, I do wonder how far things have to go before we collectively agree that Amazon treats its workers inhumanely.<p>- Paying people so little that they resort to living in tents? No.<p>- Union-busting? No.<p>- Requiring near-total abnegation of basic bodily functions? No.<p>So where&#x27;s the line? Does someone have to die of exhaustion? 10 people? 1% of workers?<p>A hallmark of totalitarianism is when a government deems itself to have power over the bodily functions of individuals. It may be useful to apply this analysis to private entities as well.
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testfoobarabout 4 years ago
I can&#x27;t imagine this is limited to Amazon. Bathroom access became impaired with fast food&#x2F;restaurants and municipalities closing off bathrooms to the public.<p>My neighborhood park hasn&#x27;t had a working bathroom or water fountains since last year.
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hirundoabout 4 years ago
In general I think this is more of a burden to women than men. I have no problem using a bottle on long drives, and my male friends have been mostly the same. But I&#x27;ve known women for whom it would be a deal breaker and would leave the job on that account.<p>This is based in both gender and sex, in that it&#x27;s less convenient for the female sex and the female gender tends to be more modest.
rottencupcakesabout 4 years ago
I wonder what percentage of independent contractor Truckers or Fedex deliverymen urinate in bottles?
mimikatzabout 4 years ago
This is semi standard behavior for truckers. There is even a name for it &quot;trucker bombs&quot;
sneakabout 4 years ago
The person ultimately in control of whether or not they were peeing in bottles of course already knew at the time of the event.<p>I probably dislike Amazon more than most here, but I think the trend is to blame them for a lot more than that which falls under the heading of their responsibilities.<p>This feels like a bad argument to make, when there are so many vastly better and legitimate criticisms of Amazon (such as their operating an entire on-prem data center for the CIA to store their drone killing and torture site videos, et c).
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