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68k.news: A Netscape 1.1 makeover of Google News

404 pointsby gripfxabout 4 years ago

59 comments

darkwizard42about 4 years ago
I think my favorite part is just how short some of these articles really are once you remove all the nonsense and extra crap in the web pages.<p>Some articles are actually... 8 sentences. That is it. How on earth does it then take 10 seconds to scroll and parse all the fake inserts to finally realize that this is a poorly researched snippet masquerading as news...
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gmurphyabout 4 years ago
Nostaliga really kicked in here - seeing things like this for the first time, and feeling the unfurling of the future and a thousand new ideas in front of you, one so new and beyond all of your sci-fi expectations, and yet so real.<p>I feel so incredibly fortunate to have been old enough to see and understand the start of all of this, and later, to be a part of all of it.
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masswerkabout 4 years ago
Great! For even better results, please, set the background-color to `#C0C0C0`. (Netscape default. However, I&#x27;m not sure, if this was also the default on Windows, as well.)<p>Compare this bookmarklet: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.masswerk.at&#x2F;bookmarklets&#x2F;netscapify&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.masswerk.at&#x2F;bookmarklets&#x2F;netscapify&#x2F;</a>
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mambodogabout 4 years ago
You can experience this on an (emulated) 68k Mac in your browser using Oldweb.Today: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;oldweb.today&#x2F;?browser=ns3-mac#http:&#x2F;&#x2F;68k.news&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;oldweb.today&#x2F;?browser=ns3-mac#http:&#x2F;&#x2F;68k.news&#x2F;</a>
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Yhippaabout 4 years ago
My favorite part by far is when you click on a link you see just the plain text of the article sans distractions.<p>Edit: also it shows a few key news articles with related articles. This means I&#x27;m not infinitely scrolling which is nice.
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artembugaraabout 4 years ago
I&#x27;m curious where the data get fetched from. The Author mentions that Mozilla Readability and SimplePie are used.<p>Readability to parse the content. SimplePie to fetch the data (I assume). Dat from RSS feeds?<p>In case you want to make something similar, I recently wrote a blog on where you could get news data for free [1]<p>(self-promo) I&#x27;d recommend to take a look at my Python package to mine news data from Google News [2]. Also, in 3 days we&#x27;re releasing an absolutely free News API [3] that will support ~50-100k top stories per day.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.newscatcherapi.com&#x2F;an-ultimate-list-of-open-sourced-free-tools-to-collect-parse-online-news-articles&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.newscatcherapi.com&#x2F;an-ultimate-list-of-open-sou...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kotartemiy&#x2F;pygooglenews" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kotartemiy&#x2F;pygooglenews</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;newscatcherapi.com&#x2F;free-news-api" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;newscatcherapi.com&#x2F;free-news-api</a>
Thaxllabout 4 years ago
Reminds me of the light CNN version: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lite.cnn.com&#x2F;en" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lite.cnn.com&#x2F;en</a>
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gripfxabout 4 years ago
Interview with the founder on the Register[0]<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;03&#x2F;29&#x2F;google_news_netscape_port&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;03&#x2F;29&#x2F;google_news_netscape_...</a>
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willchisabout 4 years ago
This is similar to a site that I built! <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;feather.news" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;feather.news</a><p>Best viewed on mobile and you can optionally use a version without images by clicking the link at the top right of the page.
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rkagererabout 4 years ago
What a breath of fresh air. I forgot how human-friendly the internet was before ads invaded.
jrmann100about 4 years ago
I know I&#x27;m the only one who&#x27;s reading news on the Kindle Voyage, but I&#x27;m definitely adding this to my bookmarks list on the e-reader. Super cool!
spiritplumberabout 4 years ago
This is beautiful. Everything should have a text mode like this.<p>I should make it an option for my own site, and I will! Thank you for the inspiration.
whalesaladabout 4 years ago
This is great. I have been looking for a &quot;world news in the style of techmeme&quot; that isn&#x27;t the drudge report.
StreamBrightabout 4 years ago
And this is how the web supposed to be.
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throwaway4goodabout 4 years ago
Where is the feed this is based upon from?<p>Google news rss seems to be different and is full with amp links:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.google.com&#x2F;rss?hl=en-US&amp;gl=US&amp;ceid=US:en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.google.com&#x2F;rss?hl=en-US&amp;gl=US&amp;ceid=US:en</a>
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knodi123about 4 years ago
I didn&#x27;t know the &lt;small&gt; tag was that old! Also thought a page from back then would be ascii instead of utf8.<p>(Also, I thought every page from that era was required to have at least one &lt;blink&gt; tag, and possibly an &quot;Under Construction&quot; image.)
dredmorbiusabout 4 years ago
I assembled a similar decruftifier for the <i>Washington Post</i> specifically, using html-xml-utils (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.w3.org&#x2F;Tools&#x2F;HTML-XML-utils" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.w3.org&#x2F;Tools&#x2F;HTML-XML-utils</a> -- and some sed&#x2F;awk) to strip only core article content &amp; metadata (head, byline, dateline). Result was typically &lt;5% of original HTML.<p>I&#x27;ve come to realise that most online commercial publishing does not even use bold within body text, giving another filter trigger for stripping cruft.
fermienricoabout 4 years ago
I know this is supposed to be retro but I use NPR text mode always. No pics, just text, its glorious.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;text.npr.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;text.npr.org&#x2F;</a><p>Far easier to read since the length of the line is absolutely perfect. Pro tip: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;practicaltypography.com&#x2F;line-length.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;practicaltypography.com&#x2F;line-length.html</a><p>That said - something is wrong with NPR, a bunch of Lorem Ipsum links :)
drewg123about 4 years ago
Comparing this to the normal Google News, we have a load time of 450ms vs 6500ms on a fairly beefy workstation. I have a new bookmark..
rocky1138about 4 years ago
I would love it if this kicked off a &quot;slow food&quot; web movement where we all built a ton of services usable by retro hardware.
alex_youngabout 4 years ago
Reminds me of text only CNN: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lite.cnn.com&#x2F;en" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;lite.cnn.com&#x2F;en</a>
eljimmyabout 4 years ago
Viewing the source of that webpage really takes you back. Plain old HTML. It&#x27;s nostalgic beauty.<p>I recently fixed up an old 486 I purchased off eBay but it was bittersweet when I managed to get it connected to the &#x27;net. Most websites were inaccessible due to the lack of support for today&#x27;s encryption protocols, those that were had numerous JavaScript issues.
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tiborsaasabout 4 years ago
Very retro with all those &lt;font size=&quot;5&quot;&gt; tags, but that&#x27;s the job of CSS :)<p>Edit: there was no CSS support in 1.1 :)
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FerretFredabout 4 years ago
This is great! I so don&#x27;t miss the err, personalization and targeted content. If you can track down RSS news sources I&#x27;d recommend having a look at Newsbeuter <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;akrennmair&#x2F;newsbeuter" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;akrennmair&#x2F;newsbeuter</a>
twobitshifterabout 4 years ago
Neat project. I use NetNewsWire for rss. It’s interesting that the format people prefer to consume news in versus the format that news is delivered in are now so different.<p>Newspapers went through the same thing. The older papers are all stories and were funded through the price of the paper, then ads invaded the margins.
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agumonkeyabout 4 years ago
You must now explain what you used to get such eye blinking fast speed. Surely it&#x27;s a new technology.
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peanutz454about 4 years ago
I did not know that google news is not available in Spain <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;publisher-center&#x2F;answer&#x2F;9609687?hl=en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;publisher-center&#x2F;answer&#x2F;9609...</a>
tyingqabout 4 years ago
Looks&#x2F;works nice in lynx (text browser) as well, where google news itself does not. Bookmarked.
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icameronabout 4 years ago
This is perfect! I have news.google.com blocked on my PC because I&#x27;m trying to block a bad habit of idly typing it in and getting sucked into the void. Came to HN and still found a way to get the news drip without as much distraction. :)
AltruisticGapHNabout 4 years ago
Needs a very light gray background.<p>To be devil&#x27;s advocate, I feel like those serif fonts were easier to read on a low resolution monitor because they were sharper due to the pixels being very apparent.<p>Here not even on a 4K, I find it difficult to read the headlines.
soylentgrahamabout 4 years ago
This is the website we need for that 32&quot; e-ink newspaper we&#x27;re all planning
alpbabout 4 years ago
It would be great to get this working on each of our personalized Google News feed. But I suspect it would require either a userscript stylesheet or Google sign-in (if that even gives you a personalized feed).
gedyabout 4 years ago
Subjective, but I wonder if browsers had defaulted to sans serif font instead of serif, people wouldn&#x27;t complain about &quot;how bad this webpage looks&quot;. I get the document origins of course.
cmiller1about 4 years ago
This is wonderful! As pages get more bloated and new crypto is used for https my old computers lose access to more and more of the web, bookmarking this to browse from mac os 9 later on today.
kylewatsonabout 4 years ago
This is great! And retro, your channel seems cool. I think I have a 3com Audrey Ergo in the closet if my wife didn&#x27;t toss it. It you&#x27;re interested I&#x27;ll send it to you.
skyfallerabout 4 years ago
Now, here&#x27;s a web page that NetSurf has no trouble with!
stuaxoabout 4 years ago
I like that it&#x27;s much easier to not click on these.<p>Maybe it&#x27;s just because the colour scheme somehow makes it less interesting.
jkaljundiabout 4 years ago
Remember doing a news site back in 1994. This is exactly like it looked. Much before Netscape and MCC though ;)
jjordanabout 4 years ago
Any chance of providing an RSS feed? The plaintext nature of the actual articles is delightful.
IncRndabout 4 years ago
This looks almost like an RSS feed.
ape4about 4 years ago
There are a few html mistakes - stray tags, etc. View source in Firefox colors them red.
jupakeabout 4 years ago
This is the perfect way to deliver factual news. To the point, no fluff. No wasted time.
pcdoodleabout 4 years ago
Super cool. SE&#x2F;30&#x27;s are amazing machines. Does HN render on netscape &lt;= V4?
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sneakabout 4 years ago
I was just the other day wishing for a no-nonsense headlines site like this. Thank you!
joemaller1about 4 years ago
Wish the width was a little narrower, or fluid. Reading on a phone is kind of small.
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butzabout 4 years ago
Is meta tag outside of html intentional? HTML 2.0 was way before my webdev days.
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_joelabout 4 years ago
I prefer this to the full-fat version anyway, even on modern CPUs. Bookmarked
kginabout 4 years ago
God I love this. Pops up instantly, content is the only thing on the page.
abricotabout 4 years ago
This is great. Google News has been unavailable in my area for years.
movedxabout 4 years ago
It&#x27;s so Netscape 1.1 it doesn&#x27;t even use HTTPS. Love it.
exabrialabout 4 years ago
Wow. Load times are incredible and no stupid node.js present
dingosityabout 4 years ago
Oh my. It&#x27;s quite beautiful in lynx.
gigatexalabout 4 years ago
I like this so much more!
yegleabout 4 years ago
Not having HTTPS certificate is a nice touch :-)
totetsuabout 4 years ago
looks good in lynx
franklampardabout 4 years ago
eeew
fireeyedabout 4 years ago
Love this. Loads much much faster than Google PWA page.
sharklazerabout 4 years ago
I don&#x27;t know if you can fix google news after google broke it themselves back in 2011&#x2F;2012, but this comes close.
throwaway823882about 4 years ago
Considering the content, maybe it should be renamed &quot;Google Trivia&quot;. It&#x27;s like a bad version of Reddit with no comments for context&#x2F;addl information.