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Show HN: An open-source, self-hostable Heroku and Netlify alternative

345 pointsby andrasbacsaiabout 4 years ago

25 comments

debarshriabout 4 years ago
This is positioned to be competing product to netlify and vercel. However, it doesn't make sense to host it yourself as core benefit of host a static pages and node js apps on netlify is use their CDN infrastructure. It would actually cost you more to host self host it than using alternatives. Also this is definitely not a PaaS substitute. It is great attempt at a netlify alternative, but fall very short from being a production grade platform. Just an analysis, don't burn me please.
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FearlessNebulaabout 4 years ago
Im not sure I understand the need for this. Isn't the point of Heroku a platform as a service to abstract out having to host it yourself? Wouldn't someone just host the app at that point?
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mplewisabout 4 years ago
For other folks who couldn&#x27;t find the documentation for this project: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;coollabsio&#x2F;coolify" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;coollabsio&#x2F;coolify</a>
codethewebabout 4 years ago
This looks pretty cool! Is it basically Dokku with a web interface?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dokku.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dokku.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;</a>
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saurikabout 4 years ago
But Heroku was a closed-source, cloud-hosted, alternative to self-hosting... can&#x27;t you just, I dunno, run your app? :(
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40fourabout 4 years ago
I applaud the effort here, it looks like a worthy project. I like the idea of effortless git deployments &amp; databases. Easy upgrades, backups, analytics etc.<p>But as others have pointed out, to call it a self-hostable Heroku &amp; Netlify is indeed missing the point. It’s a bit of an oxymoron right?<p>The benefit of those services is in their CDN network, and the fact that they provide the platform and you don’t have to maintain your own server. Things I do not get with maintaining my own VPS.<p>Doesn’t mean I’m still not interested in this project, it looks pretty nice! But I would approach the marketing differently.
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arisudesuabout 4 years ago
Looks promising. Judging by the screenshots, this just solves what I didn&#x27;t like about Dokku - the need to configure the application from the terminal, instead of a convenient web panel.<p>Will it be possible to use Golang? Or use the Dockerfile from the repository to build the container and run it? This way you can even compete with Portainer.
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oakesm9about 4 years ago
Looks nice from screenshots on the Github page. It seems to be very similar to Caprover (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;caprover.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;caprover.com&#x2F;</a>) with less features but a slightly nicer design.
ezekgabout 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve used Heroku for over 7 years. Heroku&#x27;s selling point is essentially devops-as-a-service. That&#x27;s why they can get away with charging so much compared to the hosting competition. A &quot;self-hostable Heroku&quot; doesn&#x27;t make sense, at least to me. With this, I&#x27;d have to do devops, like every other hosting platform. Granted, I did only scan the home page, so perhaps I&#x27;m missing something.
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mxschmittabout 4 years ago
Building such a thing is not that a high effort, reliability, extensibility and scalability are the things which are not easy to implement. For a small scale like hobby projects it definitely makes sense to use such stuff but not for things where you want to press a button to provision new nodes in different regions with e.g. GKE Autopilot or Render.com. Like things where you rely on a bulletproof CDN e.g. from Vercel or Netfliy.<p>btw. I&#x27;m curious why their installer is 73MB in size: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;get.coollabs.io&#x2F;coolify-installer" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;get.coollabs.io&#x2F;coolify-installer</a>
gwbas1cabout 4 years ago
One of the things that&#x27;s valuable with Heroku is how simple it is to get a domain name with a certificate for HTTPS.<p>Assuming I&#x27;m running that on my NAS, I understand setting up port forwarding through my router; but what about domains and HTTPs?
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WrtCdEvrydyabout 4 years ago
I like it, I might try it against Caprover and Portainer to see what&#x27;s up.
tweetle_beetleabout 4 years ago
Surprised by the number of snarky comments on here pointing out the obvious. &quot;Self-hostable X&quot; always involves some kind of compromise and people interested in self-hosting are aware of this.<p>The massive popularity of things like cPanel shows that there is most definitely a market for people who want some assistance setting things up, but don&#x27;t want to go down a fully managed route.
vorpalhexabout 4 years ago
Neat. I have some users who want this kind of experience but want to be hosted on my hardware - this looks like a potential good fit for our use case.<p>Thanks!
thepraabout 4 years ago
Other than github, gitea&#x2F;gitlab is supported? Is there CI&#x2F;CD for .Net Core kind of apps?
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shankspeaksabout 4 years ago
Very nice. Especially kicked you&#x27;ve used Svelte&#x2F;Routify to for the management app. I&#x27;ve been looking for a reference app for this setup, so thanks for that :)
sneakabout 4 years ago
For comparison, the one I use is called CapRover, and works great for my small use cases. It&#x27;s like dokku with a web interface, and can do rebuilds from git webhooks.
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ramchipabout 4 years ago
The license is Affero GPLv3. Does this mean anyone who self-hosts an app using this needs to make their source code available?
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f430about 4 years ago
How can I donate? I recommend you put a donate link on your website. I always support open source alternatives like this.
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Aeolunabout 4 years ago
I don’t there is nearly enough information on this page to justify running a random script on my server.
nielsbotabout 4 years ago
What if Netlify just open-sourced their stack and continued to sell their hosting service?<p>(edit: typo)
dominik-2020about 4 years ago
For me the whole point of using netlify is that I don&#x27;t need to do anything. Set and forget.
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amerineabout 4 years ago
Nice! Good Luck!
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bgormanabout 4 years ago
Why would anyone use this instead of Dokku?
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_joelabout 4 years ago
It looks nice but I couldn&#x27;t envisage using it personally. I love netlify and it&#x27;s whole CI&#x2F;CD integration, but more importantly it&#x27;s free for 100GB&#x2F;month. After that I&#x27;d just pay (as 100GB&#x2F;month for a static site seems a fair amount of virtual footfall)