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Arm says latest Huawei chip not subject to US export controls

46 pointsby dlcmhabout 4 years ago

11 comments

bsergeabout 4 years ago
Why even buy Huawei consumer devices now... even ignoring the CCP and their bs, Huawei now makes the same stuff as everyone else. Expensive, unrepairable, with locked down software and HiX bloatware. Maybe they do well in the Chinese market, I don&#x27;t know.<p>The Kirin 980 was pretty damn good (faster and cooler than Exynos and the SD845 of that year) but otherwise, you might as well get a Samsung or whatever.
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pjc50about 4 years ago
Not immediately obvious why something designed in the UK and manufactured in Taiwan <i>should</i> be subject to US export controls, but that&#x27;s the world police for you.
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Reason077about 4 years ago
What happens if Nvidia&#x27;s acquisition of ARM is approved?<p>Wouldn&#x27;t ARMv9 then become US technology, and subject to US export controls?
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nirvabout 4 years ago
I&#x27;m unable to find any source link besides Chinese websites.
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TazeTSchnitzelabout 4 years ago
How would it benefit them if they can&#x27;t manufacture chips?
throwaway4goodabout 4 years ago
As others have mentioned the challenge for Huawei&#x2F;HiSilicon is not the design but the chip fabrication. Probably HiSilicon has the capabilities of designing a chip from scratch based on RISC-V or another ISA that is cutting edge.<p>I have seen rumours that Huawei may use Samsung as fab? I don&#x27;t quite understand why Samsung would not be under the same constraints as TSMC. But perhaps the boycot of Huawei was more due to a deal between the Trump administration and the Taiwan government rather than an actual legal constraint. Much in the same manner as the US succesfully has lobbied for Huawei bans in most of the Western world.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sammobile.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;samsung-manufacture-huawei-5nm-kirin-9000l-processor&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sammobile.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;samsung-manufacture-huawei-5n...</a><p>Samsung could manufacture Huawei’s next 5nm Kirin processor<p>A new report coming out of China claims that Huawei’s next 5nm chipset, the Kirin 9000L, will be made by Samsung Foundry.
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danielEMabout 4 years ago
Looks like ARM has a new core that needs desperately to sell. So let Huawei buy the licenses and then put embargo on anyone that sells whatever to Huawei :)
blackrockabout 4 years ago
Huawei should just dump ARM. And go all in with RISC-V.
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nickdothuttonabout 4 years ago
If it was designed for Huawei using US EDA tools then it is subject to restriction. Even if it was Huawei specified, UK intellectual property and “sweat”. Unless of course Biden has changed the rules. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20210125200703&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.commerce.gov&#x2F;news&#x2F;press-releases&#x2F;2020&#x2F;05&#x2F;commerce-addresses-huaweis-efforts-undermine-entity-list-restricts" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20210125200703&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.comme...</a>
FpUserabout 4 years ago
The US might do what it did before with ASML. Politely ask for the Dutch government not to approve sale.
secfirstmdabout 4 years ago
Great place then for a backdoor.