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How Does Signal Make Money?

17 pointsby yellowyachtabout 4 years ago

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BostonEnginerdabout 4 years ago
I think this is very weak on content:<p>&quot;As if this wasn’t enough, his recommendation led to a staggering 1,100% rise in Signal’s stocks. Many more are following suit and giving their goodwill to Signal.&quot;<p>Signal isn&#x27;t a publicly traded company, they have no stock. I would expect that the author would have figured out that the stock which went up after Elon&#x27;s tweet wasn&#x27;t the Signal Foundation, but an unrelated company.
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mdipabout 4 years ago
I was disappointed in the post -- a lot of the comments are complaining that the whole article could have been summed up as &quot;they&#x27;re non-profit -- donations, silly&quot;; I agree[0].<p>And the answer was a bit of a non-answer. How do they make money[1]? Easy answer -- since the organization behind it is non-profit, it doesn&#x27;t (which is even more confusing since the author seems to think their &quot;stock&quot; went up 1,100%?!). For me, however, the question isn&#x27;t &quot;How do they make money&quot;, it&#x27;s &quot;Are they able to make enough money that they will continue to be around for me to rely on?&quot;[2].<p>If I were a Signal user, that last part would be the only reason I&#x27;d be interested in clicking, and the article didn&#x27;t really answer that.<p>[0] Not knocking the author -- perhaps it&#x27;s not a great post for the HN crowd because the summary version wouldn&#x27;t have been news to any of us, but may have been news to people outside of our industry<p>[1] I&#x27;ve always loved that statement -- &quot;Make&quot; Money -- but I would have chosen something more precise; I read it as &quot;How is Signal Profitable&quot;, hence my taking issue with the answer, but I equally recognize that I&#x27;m being pedantic.<p>[2] Which, itself, is simply a variant of &quot;When I need it, will it work?&quot; -- important, because (knowing nothing about Signal other than the name and its relation to WhatsApp) if the product can survive without the company (i.e. software that operates without server hardware managed&#x2F;funded by a company -- Bitcoin)
bilal4hmedabout 4 years ago
Signal hasnt published any tax filings since 2018 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;projects.propublica.org&#x2F;nonprofits&#x2F;organizations&#x2F;463948126" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;projects.propublica.org&#x2F;nonprofits&#x2F;organizations&#x2F;463...</a><p>The financial state of the non profit is largely a mystery as of today. Similar to their server code based on the github check ins
chipironcinabout 4 years ago
How will the loan be repaid? Only with donations? Then donations wont&#x27;t be used for further development during the next 40 years?