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Adobe charges subscription cancellation fee

817 pointsby CSDudeabout 4 years ago

76 comments

alias_neoabout 4 years ago
I got hit with this a few years back. I signed up for Ps CC for a month (I thought) to create an anniversary gift for my wife. I used it ONCE. Tried to cancel and they told me I had in fact signed up for a year, and that if I didn&#x27;t cancel now, they&#x27;d give me two months free.<p>I didn&#x27;t want it at all! Anyway, I sucked it up, got on with the remainder of the year, because they wouldn&#x27;t let me put the cancellation in early, had to do it X months before the end. Then life happened and I missed the deadline to cancel and got suckered for a second year!<p>Fuck Adobe and this practice is all I have to say, I stick strictly to Open Source options now. It may have been my fault for not reading the first time, but robbing me a second time by counting on me missing the cancellation because they wouldn&#x27;t let me do it there and then is just scummy.
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greggman3about 4 years ago
Is this really a cancellation fee or is it just honoring your contract? AFAIK it&#x27;s very clear on Adobe&#x27;s page that your options are (1) Annual plan paid monthly, (2) Annual plan prepaid, and depending on the product (3) Monthly plan at usually 150% higher price.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.adobe.com&#x2F;creativecloud&#x2F;plans.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.adobe.com&#x2F;creativecloud&#x2F;plans.html</a><p>If you signed up for a yearly plan paid monthly, the cancellation fee is finishing your contract.<p>If you didn&#x27;t want to agree to pay by the year maybe you shouldn&#x27;t have signed up for a year of service?
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teekertabout 4 years ago
I had the same, they wanted me to pay the rest of the year (after 2 or 3 years?). Problem is, that is against Dutch law, after an initial year, one is only allowed to prolong a contract by 1 month at a time. I reminded the person on the phone (who only spoke English, so imagine what happens when you are not as fluent in it as I) that they broke Dutch law, I told that to 3 other persons and they finally told me: Ok, we&#x27;ll cancel. Finally.<p>Edit: I had to call them, because the website indeed only showed me these options where I had to pay the rest of the year. Email didn&#x27;t help, they offered me some discount for the rest of the year. Very strange as a Dutch person, it has become so normal to not worry about this (I really like this law, a nice example of citizens before companies.)
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jrockwayabout 4 years ago
The downfall of Adobe is interesting to watch. New releases get more expensive every year, but they aren&#x27;t really adding features. I had to switch to Affinity to get an iPad version, for example. 21,000 employees and they can&#x27;t port Photoshop to ARM? I think at this point, they&#x27;re just coasting on brand recognition alone. They certainly aren&#x27;t adding much value; all they can do is rent you their software at higher and higher prices every year and hope nobody notices. The subscription cancellation shenanigans just show how bad their software is -- people will pay them money to not be able to use their software anymore. If that&#x27;s not a hallmark of a dying company, I don&#x27;t know what is.<p>I&#x27;m surprised they haven&#x27;t started suing people over range check functions yet.
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vr46about 4 years ago
Ha, this happened to me and I circumvented this by switching my plan to a new plan which kicked off some trial grace period, at which point I cancelled my entire plan. No cancellation fee.<p>Me 1: Adobe 0
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radicalriddlerabout 4 years ago
This has happened for years! It&#x27;s not some new terrible thing.<p>You sign up for an annual subscription, paying monthly installments.<p>They give you the option to pay half of it out if you want to cancel, it&#x27;s no different than a 12 month phone plan in places like Australia.<p>God I hate Twitter. People on their are so used to only reading 150 characters, that it&#x27;s started affecting them in their daily life, that they&#x27;re not reading the paid agreements they&#x27;re signing up to.<p>Edit: This isn&#x27;t defending Adobe. I was stuck in this agreement for a whole extra year than I wanted to be, because I didn&#x27;t get a notification about it renewing (but that was again, my mistake). Fuck Adobe, they have shitty practices.
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paxysabout 4 years ago
People are giving terrible advice in this thread. Changing your credit card number or reporting it as stolen doesn&#x27;t mean you are off the hook for the payment you agreed to. While Adobe probably won&#x27;t care enough to do it, another company in its place could very well send the debt to collections and ruin your credit score. Next time read the terms of a contract before signing it. Adobe has a no-contract monthly plan which is only marginally more expensive.
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prometheusesabout 4 years ago
Ontop of all this, when trying to uninstall Adobe products through Windows&#x27; Add or Remove Programs, you need to create&#x2F; login with an online account. Adobe is literally the scummiest company ever.
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CodeIsTheEndabout 4 years ago
I&#x27;m on the side that this isn&#x27;t so outrageous; you get a discount for making a longer financial commitment.<p>What IS frustrating is that some of their products <i>don&#x27;t</i> offer a monthly plan. I want to use Lightroom about once a year, after going on a big vacation, but there&#x27;s no cheap plan that just includes Lightroom.<p>There&#x27;s a $10&#x2F;month annual Photography Plan that includes Photoshop and Lightroom (exactly what I want), but no monthly option. I would pay $15 for one month of this, but the only way to get Lightroom for a single month is with the All Apps package, which is $80 for a single month.
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johnsocsabout 4 years ago
When you sign up you agree to the fee being broken up in installments. I think they have spelled it out pretty clearly, actually one could consider it ‘free’ financing in a sense. While I don’t like what they have done I don’t see what the big deal is with it.
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jan_Inkepaabout 4 years ago
I tried to cancel my subscription six months in advance of the termination date, and they refused to cancel it, saying I would have to call up the month before it was due to expire.<p>In the interim I misplaced my credit card and had to cancel it - my adobe account subscription was automatically suspended when the payments didn&#x27;t go through and I never heard another word from them (I deleted my adobe account just to be safe...).<p>For an unexpectedly joyous role-model, Microsoft Office subscription plans are delightfully drop-in&#x2F;drop-out - I&#x27;ve done several one-month office subscriptions to do stuff in excel.
DerWOKabout 4 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;affinity.serif.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;affinity.serif.com&#x2F;</a><p>Serves the 80% use case. Is in some areas (Live Filter, real time zoom, startup time, one fileformat for Photo, Vector and DTP) even better.<p>And best of all: no subscription!
underwaterabout 4 years ago
I cancelled my Photoshop plan after paying for it for four years and using it maybe a dozen times a year.<p>Hitting this experience after paying them $500 over the years turned me from an infrequent user of their products into a scorned customer who swore to never to do business with them again.<p>Fuck the MBAs who came up with this bullshit. I hope Adobe dies in a fire.
echelonabout 4 years ago
Adobe is losing out to more modern tools like Canva and Figma that better serve clients and don&#x27;t charge an arm and a leg.<p>This is the kind of behavior you see with ossified or dying companies that no longer innovate.<p>- Informercial &quot;Jelly of the month&quot;-type memberships<p>- Gyms<p>- Comcast<p>Adobe is toast. I&#x27;m going to look into more metrics and consider shorting it.
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Thorentisabout 4 years ago
This has been happening forever. I have always gotten out of it by contacting customer support and begging for them to waive it. My wife accidentally signed up a while ago (not knowing it was a lock in year contract, she just needed it for a month). Half hour back and forth with customer support was enough to get it waived. I would say that &quot;it&#x27;s just part of the contract&quot; but their mobile apps and lack of clear wording is predatory.
busterarmabout 4 years ago
I switched from a full Creative Suite to the Affinity software trio + DaVinci Resolve.<p>Haven&#x27;t looked back.
wccrawfordabout 4 years ago
Doesn&#x27;t this happen for every yearly plan that lets you pay in installments?
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oblibabout 4 years ago
I quit purchasing Adobe software when they started selling it as a subscription. They had pissed on me way too many times by then and I couldn&#x27;t stand the idea of buying into that bullshit. I&#x27;ve made a point to never buy any of their stuff again.<p>I never did do a lot of graphic work and most of what I need to do now can be done in Pixelmator. I think I paid $30 for that over 5 years ago.
synackabout 4 years ago
If you switch your billing to PayPal, you can then cancel the recurring authorization on PayPal&#x27;s side. Adobe will send you threatening emails, but they can&#x27;t do anything other than terminate your subscription.
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pfundsteinabout 4 years ago
I was hit with this last year while struggling for funds. Upon seeing the cancellation fee, I simply reported my credit card lost, changed the contact details on my adobe account, and then just left the account to rot. Adobe will never see another dime from me.
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celerrimusabout 4 years ago
I think Adobe offers were even more confusing few years ago. This is not honest company, gently speaking.<p>I have another good example. I bought an Adobe license few years ago, and as a business in EU, I had to bought in excluding VAT, and pay VAX tax here locally. I provided my valid EU-VAT, price dropped to net price in interface (let&#x27;s say 100 EUR), in confirmation, and even in invoice I get. However, to my surprise, my credit card was charged with full gross price (123EUR), meaning I lost 23% of purchase - as I was obligated to pay VAT anyway second time, as there was 0 VAT tax on the invoice.<p>Well, such things happen, you may think. This should be childishly easy to fix with support, as clearly amount from the invoice and amount charged simply didn&#x27;t match. However, after dozen attempts with support, dealing with various support level people from Adobe support from India, not knowing even what the VAT tax is, and without any interest on helping me out, I had to give up. I decided to use PayPal protection for buyers, as transaction was made through the PayPal. Tu my surprise, despite clear evidence, they rejected claim after consultation with Adobe, without providing any reason. So I decided to not deal with those thieves any more and called my bank to fill chargeback request. It was so clear, that they recognised the request the next day and returned the money.<p>Takeaways are: - Adobe is a shady corporation focused on robbing their customers, with other examples you can find online I cannot call that otherwise (among others, deceptive offers, blocking perpetual licenses, and as in my case simply stealing money from customers credit cards) - PayPal protections are completely useless, even with so clear cases - It&#x27;s good to make transactions with shady companies with credit cards.
jamesgreenleafabout 4 years ago
Things like this are a great use-case for privacy.com, or any other service that offers burner cards. Set a monthly limit, or make it one-time, etc. and make sure the company can&#x27;t charge you more than you&#x27;ve specified.<p>I&#x27;m not affiliated with them, but I&#x27;m a fan of their product.
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yregabout 4 years ago
The user has since locked their Twitter account. Here&#x27;s the photo of cancellation fee included in the original tweet[0]. The rest can be found in Archive.<p>[0] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;qyAWTXw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;qyAWTXw</a><p>(mirror, source, dead link)
aravindetabout 4 years ago
I encountered this with Adobe Acrobat DC, but managed to get out without paying the cancellation fee.<p>I contacted customer support and asked to <i>upgrade</i> to a more expensive SMB plan for a different but related product (Adobe Sign). I also demanded the first 14 days free, as that product advertizes a 14 day trial.<p>As I suspected, they could not make this complex change with their internal tools, so they offered to cancel Acrobat DC for me so I could sign up directly for the trial of the more expensive product.<p>As it happens, I changed my mind after the cancellation was completed. ;-)<p>If they <i>had</i> been able to do what I asked, I might have requested a change in billing country into or out of the EU or US - this is often complex for tax reasons. If their tools are capable of <i>everything</i> I could think of, I might still change my mind around the final confirmation stage.<p>Here is the pricing page: - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;acrobat.adobe.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;en&#x2F;acrobat&#x2F;pricing.html?promoid=88X75PK9&amp;mv=other#" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;acrobat.adobe.com&#x2F;us&#x2F;en&#x2F;acrobat&#x2F;pricing.html?promoid...</a><p>It does mention &quot;Requires annual commitment.&quot;, but in a vastly less noticeable style than &quot;Best value&quot;.<p>(Legal theorizing, IANAL and all that)<p>Contract law requires a &quot;meeting of the minds&quot;. Ordinarily, a written contract is evidence of where exactly the minds met - but there are exceptions. For instance, website ToS are not really enforceable. (&quot;By using this website, you agree to sell me your house for $1?&quot;.)<p>I would argue that for most people buying Adobe products with an easily missed cancellation fee, there is no meeting of the minds and the contract should not be valid.<p>A good test for this might be to ask 100 randomly selected customers about the terms of the contract. If a majority aren&#x27;t aware, it is reasonable to conclude that this information isn&#x27;t conveyed adequately and that part of the contract should not be enforceable. I&#x27;ve never heard of anything like this happening in practice, though.
have_faithabout 4 years ago
Good reminder, I just set up a calendar alert for when to cancel annual renewal. I&#x27;m on the fringe of &quot;needing&quot; a few disparate apps but I can make do without them with some effort. I knew the terms of what I was signing up for but I just don&#x27;t want to spend £600 a year so I can use a smattering of programs a couple times a month. I &#x27;occasionally&#x27; use Photoshop, Lightroom, XD, Illustrator and sometimes one or two others in a blue moon but not enough to justify the cost for me going forward.<p>I also just went half way through the cancellation process and got the next two months for free to take away some of the sting.
tristanperryabout 4 years ago
Not sure if I&#x27;m missing something, but the pricing of Creative Cloud has always been made very clear from the order form:<p><pre><code> &quot;Monthly Plan - £75.85&#x2F;mo&quot; &quot;Annual plan, paid monthly - £49.94&#x2F;mo&quot; &quot;Annual plan, prepaid - £596.33&quot; </code></pre> I can&#x27;t see how there&#x27;s any confusion here, or do they only show the options like this in the UK?<p>Also I just upgraded from Premiere Pro to the Creative Cloud and was given the full upgrade T&amp;Cs, including that there&#x27;d be a cancellation fee to pay if I signed up for the yearly option and cancelled mid-way through.<p>Again, a genuine question: am I missing something?
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Liambpabout 4 years ago
There may be a way to get out of this by switching to another plan and availing of the 2 week grace cancellation period.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;responsivedesign.is&#x2F;articles&#x2F;cancel-adobe-without-paying-the-cancellation-fee&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;responsivedesign.is&#x2F;articles&#x2F;cancel-adobe-without-pa...</a><p>Happened to my daughter she needed InDesign in order to do a once off college project. She missed the small print and signed up to an annual sub (€300 total). She managed to get out of it using the method described above.
rogualabout 4 years ago
Adobe really oversteps the line when it comes to auto-renewal. They will refuse to stop the auto-renewal on your subscription unless you make the request within a tight window lasting a few weeks before your renewal date. Obviously they want you to forget and get suckered in for another year.<p>This was unacceptable to me, so I simply got on the live chat and (politely) bothered their sales reps until they stopped it for me. As a last &quot;screw you&quot;, they cancelled my entire sub, rather than just the renewal. But, hey, good enough.<p>Adobe: Never again.
unsignedintabout 4 years ago
I was almost bitten by this before, though I think I&#x27;ve waited until the end of term and then canceled during that window of time as that was cheaper. I did find it outrageous, but I guess the contract is a contract, so I bit the bullet. (and I think it was something like 3 months left on the contract, with low tier Photographer bundle of sort.)<p>I guess their model is bit different than the a lot of other software subscription offerings, as the most I encounter out there are prepaid for certain duration of time with no commitment. (You pay monthly, or yearly -- with some services offering something between, like 3 months or 6 months.) If you choose to not renew (or cancel the contract) your contract continue to the end of the term. (Though, time to time, particularly some Japanese services, I do encounter model where your service terminates at the moment you choose to not renew -- even if you had 364 days out of 365 days remaining on your contract.)<p>It definitely is pretty much same as if you are paying for something up front. If you stop using the product in the middle of the term, you generally don&#x27;t get refund for the remainder of the term, but it definitely feel bit different.
obscuraabout 4 years ago
I hope that in the wake of this more people start supporting the alternatives. More comepetition means more choice. Adobe&#x27;s software is excellent, but they&#x27;re far too dominant. The alternatives may not be good enough for everyone right now, but they&#x27;re good enough for many of us and they&#x27;re improving all the time.<p>The Affinity suite is great and affordable for me as a hobbyist. Many of the open source packages are also excellent.
onikolas7about 4 years ago
Interesting how most comments react with &quot;I&#x27;ll just pirate it&quot; not realizing that they are just solidifying Adobe&#x27;s lock-in.<p>Few years down the line they will turn legit (guessing most are poor students who will graduate and get jobs) and will have to pay or pass the cost to their employer.<p>&quot;Free for educational use&quot; is the legitimized version of the same scummy tactic. I wish universities would not fall for it.
reader_modeabout 4 years ago
This just reinforces my decision to only use prepaid virtual cards for subscriptions.
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sirbotsyabout 4 years ago
How many SaaS companies discount a longer commitment purchase? Pretty much every single one, especially in the enterprise. And this is better for customers that want a cheaper monthly rate in exchange for paying upfront.<p>As a few folks noted below: This feels like a pretty intuitive presentation of pricing, with three clearly laid-out options: 1. No contract, pay monthly 2. Annual contract, pay monthly (cheaper than 1) 3. Annual contract, pay in one go (cheaper than 1 &amp; 2)<p>The soundbite of &quot;oh they made me pay to cancel&quot; is so easy to virally hate on, but the fact is that purchasers chose an annual contract. That being said, would be nice to see a confirmation message along the lines of &quot;Early cancellation of a massively discounted annual plan results in an early termination fee.&quot; Always room for improvement.
Psypeabout 4 years ago
No they don&#x27;t.<p>The guy took an annual license which is cheaper than a monthly one, and paid with monthly payments.<p>As such, he engaged himself by paying the whole year, not only few months.<p>Cancelling out means he has to complete the annual payment, which is of course due, according the what he signed for.
system2about 4 years ago
They did the same to me. I contacted the customer support and told them I am struggling with the payments due to covid19. They said we understand and cancelled without the fees. Only 4 months left though, but it is still a class act.
yokoprimeabout 4 years ago
Cancelled my plan after reading this! No way i will stay locked in like this. I had the subscription as a “thing i use sometimes” with the idea i could cancel any time. It had of course renewed for another 12 months automatically (im not sure this is legal where i am) and they tried to pull the bullshit cancellation fee. Talked to their rep and had to say no to all their “N months free” crap and they let me go without a fee. Nice that they do own up, but automatically renewing for 12 months at a time is just nasty.
Kyeabout 4 years ago
Just putting it out there: The Affinity suite for the desktop is currently 50% off. The Designer app for the iPad works great on my Mini with good Pencil support, and I&#x27;ve used the desktop apps for a long time. It saves to iCloud (you can choose another place since it&#x27;s a plain old Files path chooser) and the files open up on the desktop app with no problem.<p>Capture One Express is a free and highly functional alternative to Lightroom if you have a Nikon, Sony, or Fujifilm camera.
woodylondonabout 4 years ago
wow - just lost a customer in Novmeber 2021. Its the cancel and you get nothing, cancel and you can use until November would be fair. But they auto-renew you into a new contract without you noticing is a scam.<p>So i had an account which looks like they renewed my account in November 2021 without asking me.<p>Logging into my account there is NO refernce to the start and end date of the contract i agreed to, i never agreed to renew. I tried to cancel and says £178 to cancel.<p>Adobe you are now the worse company for this crap.
acdhaabout 4 years ago
I got hit by this when Apple discontinued Aperture. They did a Lightroom promo with Flickr and I figured that it was worth a try. The performance was unusable slow compared to Aperture but I had to threaten to contact my credit card company before the sales gym pretending to be product support would stop telling me to buy a new Mac to run their software and processed the cancellation without a penalty.
aalassoabout 4 years ago
I can&#x27;t see the tweet for some reason. But judging by the title, I was hit by this about a year ago.<p>I signed up to YC to tell you this:<p>After half an hour or so on their chat, I managed to make them waive the fee.<p>I&#x27;m pretty sure their practice would be deemed illegally misleading by Danish consumer laws. What worked in the end was threatening to file a complaint with the &quot;Consumer Ombudsman&quot;.
greyhairabout 4 years ago
Adobe is run by useless assholes. They get worse every year. Their forced subscription model is gold plated shit.<p>But here is the problem, much like Microsoft Office, the competitors for Adobe&#x27;s CC suite really are meager by comparison.<p>I know a lot of people are going to stomp and yell and say they are not, but everyone knows the reality.<p>But that doesn&#x27;t give Adobe the right to be assholes about it.
blitz_skullabout 4 years ago
This is why you ALWAYS use a Privacy.com (or similar) virtual credit card with limited access to your bank account. It&#x27;s the same as creating a separation between your API layer and DB layer. They shouldn&#x27;t have unmitigated access.<p>Anytime I start a trial, or pay for a service provider with a high likelihood of screwing me over—Privacy.com virtual card.
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j45about 4 years ago
My past 2 subscriptions with Adobe has resulted in them continuing to bill my CC after any cancellation.<p>Account is cancelled, so there’s nothing to log into.<p>No choice but to chargeback or attempt to engage via Twitter. Seems like a well established occurrence.<p>I recently discovered the Affinity suite of tools to replace much of the use&#x2F;need I have for creative suite.
buro9about 4 years ago
Oh this is interesting.<p>Perhaps there&#x27;s an opportunity for arbitrage of the unused period of subscription by pooling the remaining time and then allowing others to be connected to the individuals who have time remaining and use their accounts.<p>Basically buying up the unused time and reselling by treating it as a marketplace.
cashsterlingabout 4 years ago
I recommend the Affinity products... very inexpensive for how good they are. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;affinity.serif.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;affinity.serif.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;</a> Each program is currently 25 USD for a license, 50 USD regularly.
isodevabout 4 years ago
Horrible, I only have a Creative Cloud subscription because some of clients send Illustrator files instead of Sketch.<p>Just checked and it seems I can only cancel my subscription during a fixed period around the renewal date - if I miss it, I get to pay the remaining term as a cancellation fee!
fastballabout 4 years ago
I&#x27;m in the camp of &quot;this seems fair&quot;, though with the caveat that I would prefer it if they only charged you the total discount you received.<p>e.g. if monthly is $10 and yearly&#x2F;m is $8, and I decide to cancel after only 7 months, Adobe should just charge me $14 ($2*7).
gambitingabout 4 years ago
Sounds like some gym memberships that I&#x27;ve seen. Yeah it&#x27;s a monthly payment of £10 or whatever, but if you want to cancel it before the end of the first 12 months you need to pay for the rest of the months.<p>It&#x27;s basically your standard mobile phone contract.
8128js8121about 4 years ago
people complaining about breaking contracts. really?
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ubersweabout 4 years ago
It&#x27;s a 1 year contract and you have to pay part of the remaining fee. If you go to the next step in the cancellation process they give you two months free if you don&#x27;t cancel right away (might depend on how long you have had a membership).
cosmodiskabout 4 years ago
Absolutely sleazy practice. Just checked the UK website to see how this works: monthly prices are shown. When clicked on &#x27;order&#x27; the default is always annual, while some products don&#x27;t even have monthly option. Pathetic
YoloSecabout 4 years ago
So I recently found this too, but I found a loophole to get me out- if you change the plan to a more expensive one it gives you a 14 day free trial of that plan first.<p>You can cancel the trial and bingo, you&#x27;ve exited the plan with no costs :)
pibechorroabout 4 years ago
I switched to Gimp, Inkskape, Krita years ago as a heavy user of Adobe products and I have zero regrets. Once you get past the new workflow learning curve life is drama free. They are 95% equivalent and always free.
InsomniacLabout 4 years ago
Does a web plugin exist that would show an overlay on deceptive stores? &quot;Adobe has been reported to use deceptive sales methods such as: .. hidden early termination fee&#x27;s bait and switch ...&quot;
bilekasabout 4 years ago
On the next step of the process:<p>When offered a discount or to switch to another plan, choose the cheapest new plan (for me it was photography)<p>Once your membership is updated, start the cancellation process again immediately<p>The cancellation fee is now $0.
ekiaraabout 4 years ago
Is it still a viable option for designers to use the last non-recurrent-subscription version of Adobe Creative Suite?<p>Or in 2021 is Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo just the best single-purchase option right now?
nicolas_tabout 4 years ago
I remember being hit by that, I threatened a chargeback and raised a stink and eventually they waved the cancellation fee. It was super frustrating and turned me off from ever paying for Adobe.
roody15about 4 years ago
We used to purchase a district site license for Adobe. Since they have moved to this nickel and dime subscription we haven’t purchased anything since CS6. Just not worth the money IMO.
fortran77about 4 years ago
No they don’t. In fact they give you a 50% discount on the remaining months of the contract you agreed to.<p>You can also choose to subscribe by the month, and can cancel at any time.
maxbainesabout 4 years ago
Right or wrong, I found the initial subscription confusing and not clear the commitment was minimum 12months. I stopped using Adobe because of this.
someelephantabout 4 years ago
When I canceled it was necessary to do so through a chat with a support person. I asked them if they could waive the fee and they said ok.
paulcarrotyabout 4 years ago
The shiny side of classic stuff called vendor lock-in. Best experience of gambling &amp; cable TV now available for Adobe users :)
nateinactionabout 4 years ago
It took me over an hour with chat support to cancel without the fee. That was 3 years ago. I won’t go back.
Sophistifunkabout 4 years ago
This is why I stopped using Adobe.
robomartinabout 4 years ago
We used to buy multiple licenses of their Creative Suite. We&#x27;d renew the licenses every year or, sometimes, if we could not justify it, wait a year or two. I believe the last version we got was CS6. That&#x27;s when they went to their subscription model.<p>I understand why companies like to do this. I get it. However, if we went along with every single one of these transitions to monthly subscription models we would bleed money every month unnecessarily.<p>What happened since then? The CS6 suite works just fine. Tools such as GIMP have become better and better. There are a number of good video editors, file converters and other tools out there.<p>We used to also update our Corel tools every year. Now they want subscription. We are done with Core.<p>The next victim will be Altium Designer. We have probably put somewhere in the order of $30K per license into this tool over the years. Annual maintenance is in the order of $1,500 to $1,800 (can&#x27;t remember). No more. I have decided we are going to switch to KiCAD by the end of the year and donate half of our Altium maintenance fee towards KiCAD development (as well as contribute with software development if we have the time).<p>It isn&#x27;t that I have a problem with subscriptions. We subscribe to Jetbrains tools and will continue to do so. It&#x27;s more of a question of what you get incrementally for your money. And, in addition to this, getting cutoff if you stop paying.<p>As everyone on the planet knows by now, shit can happen that can put a serious kink into your finances. The old model meant that we could keep using our software until things got better and update when it made sense. As an example, we&#x27;ve done this kind of thing with Solidworks. Went a couple of years without updates and then updated all seats to the latest version when it made sense.<p>The Jetbrains subscription model is great. If you stop your subscription you revert back to the version from one year ago (I may not have put that exactly right, but it&#x27;s close). That&#x27;s fair. I can work with that. If I need to save money for any reason at all I can put it on ice, keep working and get updated back to the current version when it makes sense.<p>Adobe and others seem to be very different, brutally so. If you stop paying you lose your ability to work. To repeat myself, that is brutally painful. Others have things like cutting your off from bug fixes to even your last licensed version and cutting you off from accessing their peer-to-peer support forum.<p>I can&#x27;t claim to know the internals of their business equation. All I know is that, as a customer, I dislike monthly subscriptions that cut you off like and make the very tools you need to do your job evaporate instantly. That, I think, is wrong.<p>These are tools. I need to own my tools. That&#x27;s why I buy equipment instead of leasing it.<p>Did Adobe change? Do you get to keep and use any version of the software at all if you stop paying?<p>I believe Microsoft Office 360 is the same.<p>I know this kind of software can be a tough business due to piracy.
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nikonabout 4 years ago
If you use PayPal, you can just cancel the payment on their end.
NoblePubliusabout 4 years ago
No, Adobe charges an early termination fee for annual contracts.
binkyabout 4 years ago
Some can&#x27;t bear the sunk cost of upfront reserved instance
wsosttabout 4 years ago
Canceled my photography plan last week. No fee.
asfarleyabout 4 years ago
And this is why I don’t use Adobe anymore.
imwillofficialabout 4 years ago
Annnnnd no more Adobe products.
aviparsabout 4 years ago
Can&#x27;t see the tweet
londons_exploreabout 4 years ago
Link is dead...
dave333about 4 years ago
Time to sell the stock short? Appears to be near the top of it&#x27;s recent range today April 12th 2021 at $506. Wonder where it will be in 3 months time.
cocoa19about 4 years ago
What&#x27;s next, Adobe? Are you sending people to collections if they don&#x27;t pay up?<p>This scummy behavior is not OK.
bigyikesabout 4 years ago
Adobe is simply advertising their most affordable price. The options are clearly labeled at selection. They do not try to trick you. The way I see it, there are 3 possible alternatives to the current arrangement:<p>1) Adobe stops offering the annual paid monthly plan. This sucks because the consumer gets fewer options.<p>2) Adobe advertises the price of the true monthly plan. This sucks because Adobe is unable to advertise what, for many, is their best deal. If I intend to use this software for more than a year, which is a very common use case, then I want to know the best price on a long term basis.<p>3) Adobe keeps the advertised price as-is, but must add some kind of disclaimer or note which indicates the terms. I think this is pretty reasonable, and maybe should be implemented. Still, this sucks a little bit, not just because it’s more legal red tape, but also because it is visual noise in the same vein as the © and ® symbols.
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