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Ask HN: What has been the biggest contributor in improving your sleep?

41 pointsby break_the_bankabout 4 years ago

28 comments

cercatrovaabout 4 years ago
You&#x27;ll see the usual answers here such as<p>- better mattress and pillows<p>- sleep tracker<p>- supplements or substances like melatonin or cannabis (or lack thereof such as alcohol and caffeine)<p>- lack of screen use at night<p>- red light filters<p>- CPAP machines or mouthpieces<p>- napping (or not napping)<p>- diet and exercise<p>which are all well and good. But the number one biggest contributor for me has been to just fucking sleep at the same time every night.<p>I used to wildly swing my sleep times either by staying up doing work or having fun watching movies and playing games, then I&#x27;d be very tired the next day and sleeping early, only to wake up early again. Sometimes I&#x27;d just stay up all night as my sleep time was wholly shifted a full 12 hours.<p>Once I started sleeping (or even just getting into bed) at the same time every night, everything fixed itself.
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SirensOfTitanabout 4 years ago
I really like Piotr Wozniak’s writing on sleep: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.supermemo.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;archives1990-2015&#x2F;articles&#x2F;sleep" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.supermemo.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;archives1990-2015&#x2F;articles&#x2F;slee...</a><p>He would suggest free running sleep or alternatively biphasic sleep (a siesta about 7 hours after rising).<p>To add to others and clarify a couple things I know:<p>1. Magnesium L-threonate really improves sleep quality for me. Other types don’t work as well, including sucrosomial magnesium.<p>2. Melatonin’s benefits peak around 300mcg in most people, almost all off the shelf supplements are too large. Taking too much can hurt sleep architecture, cause nightmares, cause depression.<p>3. Circadian rhythm is slightly longer than 24 hours. Employing zeitgebers (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Zeitgeber" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.m.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Zeitgeber</a>) to entrain a more regular rhythm helps: exercise, social interaction, and (for me) a light lamp or time outdoors (since I get seasonal affective disorder in the winter).<p>4. I occasionally use supplements like Lemon balm or Magnolia bark if I’m particularly stressed before sleep, since they encourage some level of relaxation without negatively affecting sleep architecture. I think a lot of people equate sleep quality with low sleep latency, but both alcohol and marijuana, despite moving you to sleep quicker, negatively affect sleep architecture.<p>I think I have a pretty great sleep routine, as I haven’t awakened to an alarm in like 10 years.
sloakenabout 4 years ago
Stop drinking coffee after 12 noon.<p>When I feel hungry after dinner, drink water. Late hunger is often the brains cry for food to keep you awake. Usually within 30 minutes I am sleepy.<p>Going to bed early, so I do not have to use the alarm to wake up. So I write stuff down that I need to do, and if I am up early I do those things, verses pushing to stay up and do them.
bradlysabout 4 years ago
Number one by far - less stress. Going from college to having a high paying job reduced my stress quite a bit. As well as then getting a significant other. I&#x27;ve since gained weight and look relatively normal in comparison to my skeleton-like appearance in the past along with my constant lack of sleep.<p>Outside of that - removing caffeine has had a substantial effect as well. I used to drink caffeinated diet soda even up to bed time before. It didn&#x27;t always keep me awake or have much effect but removing it made it clear that it improved my sleep to some degree. But more importantly - it made it easier for me to get out of bed in the morning. When I get up in the morning - it doesn&#x27;t take me an hour to just boot up. I&#x27;m usually more &quot;awake&quot; immediately and I think I can attribute that to little to no caffeine intake.<p>I do think things like good diet and exercise and other such stuff does help too. But less stress and no caffeine have been very noticeable improvements. I avoid caffeinated drinks now as much as possible. It does mean getting that caffeine free soda is pretty difficult but it can be done!
mariedavidabout 4 years ago
reading Why we sleep, by Matthew Walker. After reading this book I decided to put sleep quality above everything and it helped me take the adequate measures. What worked for me was : lowering my caffeine intake (no more than 2 coffee), no caffeine in the afternoon, no screen in the evening, no work 2 or 3 hours prior to go to bed, increasing exercise and sunlight exposition in the day. Oh and good earplugs !
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petecooperabout 4 years ago
8pm bedtime + this stuff:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cibdol.com&#x2F;cbd-supplements&#x2F;meladol" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cibdol.com&#x2F;cbd-supplements&#x2F;meladol</a><p>I originally got it from Zamnesia in the Netherlands, but they stopped selling it under their own brand in 2019 or so, but it was clear this was the same product.<p>It cured my night terrors and broken sleep, which was enough to get me settled enough over 6 months to establish a 8pm &#x2F; 5am bed routine. I still take it today, even with better sleep patterns, and it’s part of a ritual before bed.<p>Downsides: tastes like ditch water might, consider it an acquired taste.
nodemakerabout 4 years ago
A mouthpiece for stopping the snoring. The mouthpiece holds the tongue down and makes sure there is good airflow. The difference in sleep quality is quite significant and it makes a huge difference to my day.<p>For reference, my mouthpiece cost me around 750 Euros (In 2016) and it was bought in the Netherlands from <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.snurken.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.snurken.org&#x2F;</a><p>Joe Rogan was talking about it in one of his podcasts too.
quickthrower2about 4 years ago
Ignore me as I have CFS like symptoms I am trying to get diagnosed so I don’t recommend it as a option for most people, but muscle relaxants and SNRIs especially sure do the trick from insomniac to sleep like baby.<p>Lots of downsides to these drugs. DYOR.<p>Apart from that give up alcohol. Wear an eye mask. Stop eating 6pm.<p>In my experience caffeine is less of a problem.<p>None of this necessarily applies to you as you have a different body to me.
wikibobabout 4 years ago
Make drastic life changes if necessary to fix two things:<p>- Noise level at night - Cool 65-72 degree room - Weighted blanket<p>Noise level at night is absolutely critical. If you aren&#x27;t sure, get an app to measure at night. If you live by a road and your windows aren&#x27;t absolutely sound proof, you are definitely getting poor sleep from the noise.<p>If your room isn&#x27;t silent at night, make long term plans and move.
ponyousabout 4 years ago
I bought a smart watch that tracks my sleep. I then focused on having all nights green, which usually meant I was really well rested. The tips from the app, reminders and all of it combined helped.<p>It&#x27;s the ScanWatch from Withings - they have cheaper models too, and probably any other smart watch will work although I am not sure their app is compatible.
aitchnyuabout 4 years ago
Question, what do I do when my wife of 3 months shifts, pries with legs, pulls the blanket and takes so much time off my rest?
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mrsareenabout 4 years ago
Learn peripheral vision. Here is my article for the same - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.linkedin.com&#x2F;pulse&#x2F;state-our-eyes-nitin-sareen" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.linkedin.com&#x2F;pulse&#x2F;state-our-eyes-nitin-sareen</a>
HardwareLustabout 4 years ago
Buying a good mattress. For years I bought cheap mattresses out of misplaced frugality, but my gf talked me into buying a good quality memory foam mattress which cured not only lingering back pain issues, I now sleep like a baby.
foldleftabout 4 years ago
The Wim Hof breathing exercise. While some of the stuff by him is too close for comfort to wellness bullshit, it did work for me. Take a look at his website and third-party testimonials.
muzaniabout 4 years ago
Waking early. It&#x27;s easier to wake up at 4 and force myself out of bed than it is to try to sleep before 12. Once you wake up early enough, falling asleep before 12 is natural.
zeeshanqureshiabout 4 years ago
On the days that it does feel improved, it probably is due to exercise and consistent sleep timings.<p>Distraction from pointless things that constantly linger in my head and cause stress also helps.
sunstoneabout 4 years ago
Stopped drinking alcohol from 2-3 drinks a day to 2-3 drinks a month. Something about alcohol causing my airways to block? Not sure exactly why but has made a big difference.
giantg2about 4 years ago
No stress from work (like on a 2 week vacation). No stress from a flawed justice system (prior to the injustices I&#x27;ve recently been subjected to).<p>So now I sleep terribly.
yagizdegirmenciabout 4 years ago
Personally i had a terrible sleep quality back then, i started sleeping at 12PM then my sleep quality increased instantly.
forgotmypw17about 4 years ago
Sleep when tired. Get up when ready. With occasional exceptions. Glass of water before. Night pot.
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andrefuchsabout 4 years ago
Wearing earplugs helped me improving my sleep. Took me some time to get used to them though.
joshxyzabout 4 years ago
Quality work, exercise, food, sex, and occassional alcohol.<p>Keep things simple and lindy.
uytabout 4 years ago
For people who sleep during the day, blackout curtains and ear plugs.
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DoreenMicheleabout 4 years ago
Lots of walking.<p>Improving my nutritional status.
speedgooseabout 4 years ago
Physical activity.
kyawzazawabout 4 years ago
Mouth taping
rurbanabout 4 years ago
To sleep
atomashpolskiyabout 4 years ago
Drinking beer before going to bed. Sleep like a baby.
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