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Backblaze Drive Stats for Q1 2021

104 pointsby cautionabout 4 years ago

11 comments

jonplackettabout 4 years ago
Backblaze is awesome. Anyone not using it should give it a try.<p>But I have a question - why do they share this info? Is it to show they’re reliable or just for curiosity? Or some other reason?
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guerbyabout 4 years ago
What would be interesting for SSD is percentage of advertized TBW when (or just before) the SSD failed, ie 100% if the SSD fails at exactly its advertized TBW, 50% if it fails at half the TBW, and 200% if it lasts two times the advertized TBW.<p>In case someone from backblaze read this :)
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wing-_-nutsabout 4 years ago
One thing I&#x27;ve always wondered, are these drives what people would recommend that you stick in a desktop or nas or are these &#x27;datacenter&#x27; drives that are overkill for consumer use?
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louwrentiusabout 4 years ago
I once had a 20-drive NAS with 1 TB Samsung Spinpoints F1s.<p>The NAS is replaced but I still have the drives just for labbing &#x2F; testing purposes.<p>I never had a drive failure during the lifetime of the NAS. Probably because it was off most of the time and only powered-on with wakeonlan when needed.<p>So those drives don’t have many hours on them. But recently they started dying. I lost 3 of them this year during some tests.<p>Imagine that these drives are probably 10+ years old.<p>Age does seem to matter.<p>Obviously this is a small uncontrolled sample but it seems that you really should keep this in mind when you run a NAS at home. Keep an eye on the SMART parameters as suggested by Backblaze and really consider replacing drives at some point. I would be afraid that drives do start dying at the same time due to age.
londons_exploreabout 4 years ago
Does backblaze ever power cycle the drives (either on a schedule or due to planned&#x2F;unforeseen circumstances)?<p>If so, it would be interesting to know how many drives failed on the day of a power cycle vs days with no power cycle.<p>I know other providers have found that &quot;power cycle days&quot; can be 100x more deadly for drives than &quot;non-power-cycle days&quot;. It can have a massive impact when estimating data loss probabilities - since unforseen power cycle days tend to impact more than one drive at a time...
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drexlspiveyabout 4 years ago
I bought a toshiba NAS drive mainly due to backblaze’s stats and it came bricked out of the box :(
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londons_exploreabout 4 years ago
Think of the classic &quot;bathtub&quot; curve (which says that young drives fail more frequently, old drives fail more frequently, and mid-age drives are most reliable).<p>That curve <i>doesn&#x27;t</i> seem to match the data here. Or if it does, it says the &quot;old&quot; increase in failure rate happens at over 5 years.<p>I would guess backblaze will replace these old drives because they are too small&#x2F;too slow&#x2F;use too much power before they replace them for being too unreliable.
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nikisweetingabout 4 years ago
I feel like SSD failure has little correlation with hours running, and more to do with TBW. Would be nice to see some read&#x2F;write totals on these stats going forward.
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zachruss92about 4 years ago
Just echoing the sentiment of loving Backblaze. The HDD stats really aligns with the open source roots of the company. I love that they also open source the designs of their storage pods.<p>This &quot;show your work&quot; strategy helps me trust them at the end of the day. With this kind of storage being a commodity, a high level of openness could be a competitive advantage.
tux3about 4 years ago
Someday I&#x27;m going to take those numbers and try to see how the AFR varies with the age of the drive. I expect 8 year old drives to have a higher AFR than 3yo, and 6 month olds to be somewhere in between, for example.<p>And then, we could compute what the life expectancy of a given model is given how long you&#x27;ve had it (just bought, few years old, etc)<p>It&#x27;d be fun to compare those across vendors and drive models. There&#x27;s maybe even enough data at this point that some of the numbers might be meaningful! =)
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dangabout 4 years ago
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Jan 2017 (132 comments)<p><i>Backblaze hard drive reliability stats for Q3 2016</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12959457" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12959457</a> - Nov 2016 (110 comments)<p><i>What SMART Stats Tell Us About Hard Drives</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12655445" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12655445</a> - Oct 2016 (68 comments)<p><i>Hard Drive Stats for Q2 2016</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12210509" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=12210509</a> - Aug 2016 (57 comments)<p><i>One Billion Drive Hours and Counting: Q1 2016 Hard Drive Stats</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11712989" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11712989</a> - May 2016 (135 comments)<p><i>Backblaze Hard Drive Reliability Stats for Q3 2015</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10387962" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10387962</a> - Oct 2015 (19 comments)<p><i>Hard Drive Reliability Stats for Q1 2015</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9589234" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9589234</a> - May 2015 (26 comments)<p><i>Predicting Hard Drive Failures with SMART Stats</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8745062" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8745062</a> - Dec 2014 (20 comments)<p>I actually thought there had been more of these.