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Guix 1.3

151 pointsby rekadoabout 4 years ago

9 comments

FrenchyJibyabout 4 years ago
Big fan of Guix, though I&#x27;ve only tested it in VMs, via Vagrant[1], for lack of disposable hardware.<p>Its usability by non-specialists can be improved (and is, release by release) but the concept is very promising for reproducible systems.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;OverkillGuy&#x2F;jibyconf&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;GUIXSD_Vagrantfile" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;OverkillGuy&#x2F;jibyconf&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;GUIXSD_V...</a>
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e3bc54b2about 4 years ago
I&#x27;m a NixOS user and seriously considering at least trying out GuixSD.<p>Does GuixSD come with Plasma desktop and other KDE assortments? My lazy google-fu is failing me, and the installer video does not list is as option.<p>I also have an Nvidia Optimus laptop so I assume I&#x27;ll be using nonguix repo and building non free kernel, but that can be tolerated. If anyone uses nonguix kernel&#x2F;nvidia, can you please tell me how long of build times I should be expecting? I have an i5 8th gen.
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snicker7about 4 years ago
Guix is one of the most important software projects today. It can be bootstrapped from an auditable 357-byte binary seed [0]. No other package manager can claim that. It is also a unifying force for much of the GNU ecosystem.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freelists.org&#x2F;post&#x2F;bootstrappable&#x2F;wipfullsourcebootstrap-from-a-357byte-hex0-to-hello" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freelists.org&#x2F;post&#x2F;bootstrappable&#x2F;wipfullsourceb...</a>
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pgtanabout 4 years ago
I really would like to see a Gentoo equivalent based on Lisp&#x2F;Scheme, but as far Guix seems to be not even near. I just looked for no-multilib option (only 64bit of libc), custom compile flags or similar, but didn&#x27;t find anything.
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alekqabout 4 years ago
Questions for the GuixSD and NixOS users:<p>1) Are these kind of systems overkill for the desktop user?<p>2) How easy is it to customize&#x2F;tweak these systems in the manner that Gentoo does? So, building from source by tweaking the software options on build time?
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the_dukeabout 4 years ago
Obligatory comparison to Nix [1]:<p>Pros:<p>* Better, more coherent and unified tooling<p>* Better docs<p>* Built with LISP (edit: Scheme), A standard language that is not project-specific. Nix lang is somewhat quirky and takes some getting used to. It&#x27;s pretty decent though for a narrowly focused domain language.<p>Cons:<p>* Tiny community that is much smaller than Nix. nixpkgs is the largest package repository out there, providing most software that you could want.<p>* Really slow every time I tried it. Nix is written in C++ and actually performs quite well, even when building many hundreds of pacakges.<p>* Not systemd based. Say of systemd what you will, but there is a reason almost every distro has adopted it. It&#x27;s just better. Also: most Linux users are familiar with systemd tooling by now, so that makes adoption even harder.<p>* Strong focus on freedom and not packaging proprietary software. Understandable, given the project origins. But awkward to the point of being mostly impractical for personal use - I can&#x27;t package everything myself.<p>* No equivalent to home-manager [1], which is amazing for declarative user environments<p>[1] nixos.org&#x2F;<p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nix-community&#x2F;home-manager" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nix-community&#x2F;home-manager</a>
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caternabout 4 years ago
&gt;Opportunistic use of neighboring substitute servers is entirely safe, thanks to reproducible builds.<p>How does this work? Just because the builds are reproducible doesn&#x27;t mean that the artifacts published by substitute servers are actually the outputs of the build process you expect.
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rstarastabout 4 years ago
Just as a warning if you&#x27;re considering Guix for server use: Switching generations (e.g., rolling back a system update) requires rebooting to take effect.
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rataata_jrabout 4 years ago
Do we have a gui installer for Guix these days? Last I checked, they didn&#x27;t.
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