I hate making a new login that I have to remember for things I might not even use. It would be nice if you could create the website <i>first</i>, then only sign up if you liked it and wanted to save it. This stops me from testing cool looking projects like this all the time :(<p>EDIT: that being said, I <i>love</i> that you can edit the landing page itself, that at least gives me some idea of how it works, although then if I turn it into something interesting I have to start over when I sign up.
Congrats, it's really great!<p>A small comment:<p>- Instagram has recently become much more aggressive in not showing anything to logged out users. Because of this, when you create a button (on your site) linking to an Instagram page, the button name ends up being "Login • Instagram" (that's because you're getting the Open Graph preview of the page you're redirected to, i.e. the login..!)<p>You could probably have an exception for Instagram and when linking to instagram.com/<username>, force the button name to be @<username>. Not ideal, certainly, but maybe a bit better?<p>Congrats again and happy launch!<p>EDIT: I initially didn't see that the mobile viewport /is/ visible when designing on desktop! my bad! I removed my original note
> Websites shouldn't all look the same. We prefer campy, kitschy, messy, imperfect.<p>I really like the design aesthethic this product encourages. There's so much charm and fun and eccentricity that's lost in a web where full-height responsive image backgrounds and blocky design frameworks are ubiquitous.<p>If this can help people express just a little bit of the wild creativity of things like early 2000's MySpace layouts or GeoCities pages I'll be a big fan!
I miss a 'Jump to random mmm.page'. No time or creativity to add something myself, but I'd like to get a few impressions on the jumbly messy things that are being made..
I would rather pay $79 USD a month for this than what I get with leadpages that I mostly use for easy editing/creation. One click editing was awesome right on the homepage. Love this and can imagine using it for a number of quick things.<p>If I were leadpages or a similar company I'd buy this outright right now before y'all build up your own community and the price reflects that.<p>If you're thinking of a model I'd suggest doing pay per export for source code/external host, let people build & then export full css/html/etc for like $9 a project. Keep the hosted on your domain free or mostly free and you'll make an industry of people who will justify the small project cost for the time savings of a true drag & drop editor
This is going to get some love. Its the right product insight(even the simplest template driven sites are too hard once you get past the basics). You're working off a good consumer insight ("i <i>want</i> this site to look very different"). I like the details (chaos monkey). Super simple to understand and use.
I wish the "edit" button was more visible. I noticed it only on my second visit. After I found it, I enjoyed playing with the page and the first hand experience a lot more than reading about it. During my first visit I wasn't impressed but now the product looks cool to me.
Great stuff! I'd recommend making the "Edit" button a bit more noticeable, took me a while to find it.<p>Also do you have planned custom domains?<p>Great job!
The editable landing page is a great intro to the product, but it would maybe be good to have a big CTA button above the fold that's like "Edit this page". Much more noticeable than the bottom right corner pencil button.<p>EDIT: though of course your main CTA is to drive signups. That makes sense too. Maybe this is a secondary CTA right under the signup button?<p>Also the signup button is below the fold on smaller windows, might want to reconsider the size of the text above it (at least on viewports that are <700px tall?)
Too fun! <a href="https://mmm.page/kicks.condor" rel="nofollow">https://mmm.page/kicks.condor</a><p>Anyone else making a page out there?
> 12.6 MB transferred, 21.8 MB resources<p>Personally I much prefer websites that don't use up that much bandwidth.<p>Let's take <a href="https://asset.mmm.page/77/a05aa5533e4f3a97080c63f9b70189/04-min.png" rel="nofollow">https://asset.mmm.page/77/a05aa5533e4f3a97080c63f9b70189/04-...</a>. 4,748,611 bytes, 2602x4336 pixels, actually rendered at a ~150x250px size. Do you really need to ship that many pixels?<p>I hope more people pay attention to reducing bloat than looking campy, kitschy, messy, imperfect.
This feels like it’s in the same family as straw.page[1]. Both are a really refreshing break from homogeneous minimalist web design that’s taken hold over the past few years.<p>[1]: <a href="https://straw.page/start" rel="nofollow">https://straw.page/start</a> / <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26124581" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26124581</a>
The flexible WYSIWYG editing is top-notch! I’m sure you’ll get a thousand feedback ideas, but... if a next goal was to get folks to make it an expression/view of themselves, it would be good to help them connect content that they are already making back into their page. Being able to drop in a API feed of their tweets, blog posts or videos — and then applying some of your kitschy formatting to it — might bring back even more of that MySpace feel...
I love it! Especially the editability of the landing page itself!<p>I really hope this takes off - so much more creativity-inducing than squarespace or whatever!<p>Does not really work for me since i am not really the target audience, but i really hope this gets a lot of exposure.
Really cool stuff, here is my microsite i made for the music i made that i uploaded to youtube: <a href="https://mmm.page/danstar.main" rel="nofollow">https://mmm.page/danstar.main</a>
This looks like a lot of fun, speaking as someone who loves the weirdness of the old web, but understands the challenges of re-creating such 'messy by design' sites with pure HTML/CSS.<p>Wordpress has moved in this direction with Gutenberg (where you can add 'blocks' inside the <article> element for things like columns, tables, images, iframes. Full Site Editing has been "coming soon" for a while however.<p>But even so, Wordpress (or Wix or Squarespace) isn't offering the "Clippy meets PowerPoint" level of drag and drop that can result in fun sites. For example, rotating an element so it appears a little off-centre and askew isn't supported out of the box in WP Gutenberg. You have to be able to edit your CSS file to do this. Whereas in PowerPoint, you can rotate and scale elements easily.
It looks very nice! I played around with it a bit, and one of the main things I missed is some kind of hierarchy/grouping.<p>If some text is inside a box, and I drag the box around I'd want the text to move with it. Currently I have to drag each individual part of a group to move it.
This is fantastic. Nice work.<p>Just because of Geocities-era sites, I really wanted there to be graphical visit counter elements I could add to a page.
Hey HN! Been thinking about something like this for a long time, and finally decided to work on it three months ago. Excited to show everyone today!<p>.<p>———— TLDR ————<p>I built a website builder (works on desktop & mobile) that makes it easy to create automatically-responsive, collage-like websites -- websites that allow you to overlap text, images, GIFs, YouTube videos, etc. etc.<p>Check it out @ <a href="https://build.mmm.page" rel="nofollow">https://build.mmm.page</a><p>Feel free to RT <a href="https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1392438711367909376" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/xhfloz/status/1392438711367909376</a> to help :)<p>.<p>———— Nitty Gritty Details ————<p>* Every page is automatically responsive (a demonstration of how is shown on the homepage).<p>* Allow text, images, GIFs, shapes, YouTube videos to start (much more planned).<p>* Everybody gets their own URL/namespace @ mmm.page/USERNAME<p>* _Actual_ drag and drop! No grid-locking (though there are layout alignment guides).<p>* Tiny cool thing -- try pinching and zooming on your touchpad (rotate works on Safari too).<p>.<p>———— Motivation ————<p>There seems to be fewer and fewer personal websites -- many of which now look increasingly similar -- and, yet, more people than ever have some Graphic Design Lite experience (a la Snapchat & Instagram), so I figured, it could be interesting to see websites made with a similar style, WYSIWYG composer as Snapchat/IG. (That, and the math to do these layouts manually is always too much hassle for me.)<p>.<p>———— Updates to Come ————<p>A lot still needs to be done, but wanted to share today to gather some feedback -- hope you find it useful!<p>Feel free to follow me on Twitter for updates (<a href="https://twitter.com/xhfloz" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/xhfloz</a>)<p>.<p>-- XH (<a href="https://mmm.page/xh.main" rel="nofollow">https://mmm.page/xh.main</a>)
Very nice but don't really understand "Every page is mindlessly responsive so they work across screen sizes". Doesn't seem to do anything to make it responsive unless I misunderstand something (just tried to resize the window and anything not in the narrow column in the middle ended up outside the screen).<p>I would like to add "breakpoints" and make adjustments just for the screen size I'm currently viewing it in.
Really awesome tool and just what I was looking for. As someone with a design background, I do miss some tools that I'm used to having - like the eyedropper for example. One thing that would be cool to see in iteration would be responsiveness instead of just showing the mobile cutoff, but overall for a first-pass I think this is a great tool! Nice job.
I found it amusing that the 'stroke' tab of the sticker presets gives you a variety of random brush strokes, smudges etc.<p>It also gives you a single sticker of a brain flashing 'aphasia', which is a literal type of medical stroke that causes brain damage and possibly insensitive on that tab!
Great stuff! love the idea, design and animations are slick! Everything is so simple and smooth!<p>A few things that come to my mind if you'd like to continue developing this project:<p>- if a user enters a link to a subpage owned by the same user I think there shouldn't be a `target="_blank"`<p>- maybe add a button to disable the layout red lines tips as it could get annoying when you have lots of overlapped objects, although it might be an edge case [1]<p>- one minor advice is some folks are probably going to complain about collection of the user emails for the sign-up so I'd suggest making some privacy policy just to be transparent.<p>[1] <a href="https://mmm.page/simone.computer" rel="nofollow">https://mmm.page/simone.computer</a>
I love the concept, and I was having a lot of fun building my first page; however, I had to restart my computer after adding about half a dozen page elements, and all my progress was lost. It'd be great if work was saved as it was edited on the page.
This is so cool! I found it extremely easy to edit a site on mobile, which is probably the hardest thing to get right.<p>Very well done!<p>One note though, keyboard shortcuts don't work (pressing delete after clicking on a element doesn't delete it for example)
I like it, but I won't consider using it until it lets me set a username and password (and preferably with 2FA as well) instead of the "we'll email you a login link" thing.
Messed with editing the landing page for a bit. I like it, well done. Editing is intuitive, not much of a hassle. Things react & do what I expect they should.<p>As others have mentioned, definitely add a random mmm link, to see other mmms, or otherwise add a spotlight to show off what people can / have done with it.<p>Also make it more obvious you can edit the landing page, maybe provide a clickable link in the text that points out that you can edit the page (below the signup button at the top). And then provide a blank canvas page where people can screw around; if they like their mess, they can sign up and save it.
This is pretty fun, but I can't figure out how you do most of what you have on the home page. I'm not sure if it's just me or some of the coolest things are too hard to discover. A few examples: When I go to shapes they're all 2d and I can't find a way to make them 3d like yours are. I'm also not sure how to rotate objects, even if I click on the rotated YouTube video I can't figure out how to do it/how I can change its rotation.<p>Also is this a typo? "Every page is mindlessly responsive so they work across screen sizes" Should mindlessly be automatically?
This is awesome, I’ve been looking for something like this (particularly for mobile) for a while. One small issue I came across is a photo I uploaded came out with the wrong aspect ratio and I can’t seem to fix it.
First impression is very good. However, it requires signup to actually try / use. I have several websites, but currently have no need for such so I just left again. Probably to never return because I never remember sites that I only visit a few seconds. Would be better to let my try and get me hooked, to get ideas for remodeling one of my existing websites.
Damn, I didn't think I'd spend so much time on it, it's awesome. There are basic features lacking imo but it's great ! Oh and you can check my page here : <a href="https://mmm.page/Rphad.yolo" rel="nofollow">https://mmm.page/Rphad.yolo</a>
I love that it fuels creative freedom, but this seems to be proprietary, which means freedom is still restricted.<p>Consider releasing code under AGPLv3 and styling/pictures GFDLv1.3? (GFDL has very strong attribution requirements: you must keep it as part of the title and include other parts.)
This is great. Of course it needs more features but it's a great start.<p>I always search for apps that let you design web pages with extreme simplicity like this.<p>One suggestion: please support right-to-left languages like Arabic; not hard at all :)
This is really fun and cool. I haven't said that about a web tool in years. I think some other outfit, maybe it was ".me" or something had something personal but it wasn't fun. Great job! Hope you can keep it going!
Why is everyone forcing email logins? How can i give this to my coworker to work on with my email if he doesnt have a password? What is the easy solution for me without me having to forward the login email each time?
This was fun! I might consider making my personal site in this. I do have a blog, so maybe even a way to export as HTML would be awesome :)<p>One feature request that would help a lot is instead of uploading an image, providing the image source.
I found it unusable on Firefox 81 (including with No addons). Clicks don't work at all - seems to work fine on Chromium. I suggest testing on a broader range of browsers.<p>Edit: It's just my version, not an issue with the site.
This does feel quite myspace-y, but the burning question would be... is this all just like myspace. e.g. if I leave or spend hours creating something, it is nearly impossible to move it or back it up to something else?
Great job! The builder is fun and intuitive. I especially like how you handle responsiveness - very smooth.
Do you basically use relative units (eg percentages) for all sizes and distances to accomplish that?
The layout is ... slightly broken on Edge browser on Android. (And zoom is disabled)<p><a href="https://i.imgur.com/2RoR52Y.jpg" rel="nofollow">https://i.imgur.com/2RoR52Y.jpg</a>
Hey, I really liked the registration process - getting the email verification in first and then having really simple onboarding makes for a great experience.
Also, the aesthetic is so fun!
Looks great, but little bug on my system (Firefox 87 for Android 11), scroll does not work.. But on my computer, it sure looks good, will recommend to my less tech-savy friends!
upvote for the "messy encouraged" a lot of times tools decide how the works will generally look like, hope people can really make something wildly different with this