I smell a lot of nostalgia in this thread, and rightfully so! IE has been a terrible browser, but it was <i>our</i> terrible browser.<p>But fear not! Outlook still uses the HTML parsing engine from MS Word (!) to display your HTML emails, and it's not going anywhere.
<i>By moving to Microsoft Edge, you get everything described above plus you’ll be able to extend the life of your legacy websites and apps well beyond the Internet Explorer 11 desktop application retirement date using IE mode. Internet Explorer mode in Microsoft Edge will be supported through at least 2029.</i><p>While IE11 as an independent program is going away, the rendering engine is still around for 8+y.<p>Here's hoping that this deprecation removes the expectation that things support IE11, however!
FYI, You can send an email to Microsoft requesting the your website will automatically reopen in Edge when someone visits it with IE<p><a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/web-platform/ie-to-microsoft-edge-redirection#request-an-update-to-the-ie-compatibility-list" rel="nofollow">https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/web-platform...</a>
I was assigned a Trello task the other day to go ahead and put up a warning to IE users (until August).<p>It was one of the most satisfying tasks I've ever received.<p>I can't wait to go through the app with a machete and whack away all the sloppy IE compatibility code.
I work on a SaaS app in the healthcare space where IE11 is the preferred browser, and was getting worried watching all of our favorite tools begin to completely drop IE11 support (Tailwinds, Bootstrap) - effectively punishing us for the sins our customers IT orgs.<p>This brings me hope. But only a little. I’m sure they’ll find a way to keep running it.
That's a real end of an era. Internet Explorer's legacy engine is going to be relegated to old grayhair horror stories. Not unhappy it's going away, but it feels like a big chapter is closing.
<i>> Internet Explorer 11 desktop application will be retired ... on ...</i><p>Woo. And, indeed, hoo.<p><i>> for certain versions of Windows 10</i><p>Ah. And there begineth the weasle words. I'm guessing there will be significant organisations in finance/wealth management (our general area) and other industries that will still demand IE11 support for some time after that date.<p>I think first a combination of our move towards "more smaller clients, not being beholden to a few large ones", the reducing budgets if those big clients, and the fact the others are more up-to-date, will mean we'll be able to say "Support IE11 or will go elsewhere? OK then, see you around." long before IE11 really exits the industry. Whether the company will have the balls to go through with that, is something I'll find out in future, but I'm allowing myself a little hope.
The one thing I regret about this is that IE11 was stable. By 'stable' I don't mean 'not crashing', but rather stable as in 'fixed feature set'.<p>These days, sites and apps that support FireFox/Chrome tend to test only on latest versions. Which come out frequently and can and do break things. Supporting IE11 means it works in IE11. Supporting FF/Chrome means it mostly works in the latest tested version.<p>If devs were more aware of Firefox ESR version and tested against it, we could have more stability again.
Who remembers the IE tax? <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/australian-retailer-charges-customers-ie-7-tax/" rel="nofollow">https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/australian-retailer...</a>
I hope someone finds a way to use its interface with a better rendering engine, which I think is the best part of IE - no infantile HUGE buttons, patronising error messages, or other dumbed-down things, just a serious UI with good ideas like per-zone trust security settings and user stylesheets built-in. It also doesn't have gobs of phone-home "telemetry".<p>(Firefox is a close second but is clearly starting to become user-hostile too... and now you may realise much of why they want to kill IE and dumb down Firefox: herding users is easier when they're turned into obedient and docile consumers, instead of masters over how they decide to consume your content.)
I'm currently enjoying nostalgia as I'm currently using IE for a full on ActiveX app which has no use the loose obtuse constructs of the HTML.<p>Much live a headcrab, the ActiveX takes over the the full device context and reaches deep into the OS. I CAN pulp my own WM messages thank you very much Mr browser ... Brakes my alt tab from time to time, can't grab focus from a miss Z'd dialog. Yes... Nostalgia
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Just to be clear here: retired for windows 10.<p>People talking about certain spaces (eg healthcare) where Citrix on windows server is the norm are going to support ie11 for the lifespan of windows 2019. So don't pop the cork just yet..
There was a time when I was really good in fixing bugs in IE6. This made me go to school because I realized no matter what happens, IE will eventually die and my skills will be useless. So, final goodbye, although I haven't thought about you much in the last years.
I am just waiting to hear back from a customer on a support ticket request where functionality in my app is not working as expected.<p>They sent me a screenshot of what should be a form in a modal but the modal has failed to load so it has loaded just the form in a new page looking pretty unstyled. The JS for the modal uses fetch() so possibly why it broke.<p>I'm 95% sure that the browser in the screenshot is IE10. I pointed them to this announcement if only to make them aware of the security risks in running IE10 but it beggars belief that anyone would choose to run IE10, individual or enterprise.
Do we expect legacy TLS versions to remain supported under Edge’s compatibility mode? I note MS deferred the end-of-support in IE11 for TLS 1.0/1.1 last year and haven’t announced a new end date.
From time to time I like to lake a look at the last efforts ms did to try to save ie: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/internetexplorer/videos" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/user/internetexplorer/videos</a> as for example: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyl4ABlXzuM" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyl4ABlXzuM</a>
Hate it or hate it, Internet Explorer paved the way for a lot of developers to provide web content and applications as it was the de-facto browser used by a lot of end consumers.<p>It also paved the way for technology to focus on security, standards and most of all, a better and standardized approach for browser technology.
One of my former employer will be devastated (a fortune 10). There was absolutely no other way for employees to use the company's websites without IE. (payroll, hr, internal services, etc)<p>Even mac users had to use IE. I never figured out how they were running IE on the mac, but there it was running in all its glory.
IE is used in some unexpected places, one of the weirder ones for example a ingame display frame for the ingame wiki of older Total War series games. They'll need to update the game and replace it in some way else ingame help will be unavailable when they remove it via an update.
Despite the decline of Mozilla and Firefox in recent years, it managed to outlive Internet Explorer!<p>And I still remember the print ad with the launch of Firefox 1.0.<p>M$ still have a lot to do to redeem themselves.
It is nice to see the long internet nightmare known as Internet Explorer come to a conclusion.<p>What is the next thing we should wish to see die on the internet?
Does this include IE11.dll? (used by some internal MS tools as a renderer, eg: Office Add-ins)<p><a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/dev/add-ins/concepts/browsers-used-by-office-web-add-ins" rel="nofollow">https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/office/dev/add-ins/concepts...</a>
It makes me wonder if a decade or so down the road, we'll be bemoaning Chrome/Chromium as the new IE.<p>Well, you could argue we're already doing that, considering its influence and how even Microsoft yielded and made Edge Chromium-based.
Just opened the latest stable release of chromium edge, there is no IE compatibility mode. No flag, no command line switch. Nothing.<p>Why was it removed?
As someone actually working in operations, and keeping our current suite of software/apps/etc compatable with these upgrades, I say - Microsoft, your documentation is very poor and lacking, and I have to invent fixes to your lack of effort... probably by design.<p>It is annoying when we can quickly proof up software, and specialized utilities when consulting with business. It is wayyyy to much work to port from IE to Edge though.. yeesh, waste of my productive time.
if you want automatic redirection to Edge for your website, you can request it via <a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/web-platform/ie-to-microsoft-edge-redirection" rel="nofollow">https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/web-platform...</a>
We've replaced one monopoly browser (IE) with another monopoly browser (Chrome), except this time it's worse because Microsoft's business model is selling software and Google's business model is tracking and selling user information for advertisements. Because of this, I don't have a rosy outlook for the future of the web.
Folks, all previous materials and files available on <a href="https://www.my-internet-explorer.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.my-internet-explorer.com/</a>
Can we just retire the entire Windows operating system already?<p>I recently started working on a new project that's running on Windows Server 2019 and the experience so far has been absolutely terrible. One Windows related headache after another.