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Sublime Text 4

1436 pointsby ascomalmost 4 years ago

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ben-schaafalmost 4 years ago
Hello HN,<p>I&#x27;m one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We&#x27;re all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you&#x27;d like to ask I&#x27;ll do my best to answer them.
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nickjjalmost 4 years ago
The new auto-complete is really impressive.<p>I&#x27;ve always been a big fan of using snippets and auto-completing based on open buffers in a project instead of using LSPs.<p>I haven&#x27;t used ST in a while but decided to install ST4 to try it out.<p>I opened a Flask application that uses SQLAlchemy. I opened a Python file and typed User. and then it showed me a list of fields and methods on my User model without having the User model open in a buffer.<p>I did the same thing in an Elixir project and after installing the Elixir package it worked for project specific &quot;things&quot; in my app. Like after typing UserView. it showed me only functions available in that view. Likewise it did the same thing with context modules, it picked up all functions inside of a specific module.<p>In both cases as I started typing &quot;User&quot; it showed me options to pick from. In both cases it also listed out the number of definitions for a specific &quot;thing&quot; and lets you quickly jump to a specific one. If you mouse over a function it brings up the list to pick a definition &#x2F; reference. There&#x27;s also key binds to bring up a CTRL+p&#x27;ish feeling menu to see and preview the file where something is being used.<p>It&#x27;s not as good as a LSP but it&#x27;s definitely a few notches above what I&#x27;ve seen in other editors and the best part about it is not needing to configure multiple LSPs and it&#x27;s lightning fast.
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SavantIdiotalmost 4 years ago
I feel bad using VSCode after years of supporting Sublime (by purchasing a license). However the one case where I do use sublime repeatedly? When I need to open an editor QUICKLY. It boots faster than VSCode, and frankly, it finally broke me of my constant habit of VIMming now that I have it on my mac, win and linux boxes. I am eager to try V4, but I&#x27;m so deep in VSCode now, I don&#x27;t know if I can find my way out! I can even cross compile C and debug in VSCode!
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Wowfunhappyalmost 4 years ago
&gt; Sublime Text license keys are no longer tied to a single major version, instead they are now valid for all updates within 3 years of purchase. After that, you will still have full access to every version of Sublime Text released within the 3 year window.<p>I really love this model.
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nlyalmost 4 years ago
It&#x27;s software like Sublime that sustains my faith in the software industry and why I&#x27;m still a developer.<p>It&#x27;s beautiful, efficient software that single-handedly proves that desktop software in 2021 doesn&#x27;t have to be a shit, low quality side show to SaaS &quot;apps&quot; and mobile.<p>Heaven knows what their code looks like. Perhaps it&#x27;s best it never goes open source so we can sustain the Opera-esque magic of a &lt;10MB binary that packs so much punch.
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ghshephardalmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;m a Data Engineer that works all day with all sorts of data, most of which gets streamed through python, dataframes, some sqlite, lots of awk&#x2F;sed - but at least a half dozen times a day, every day, I drop a massive chunk of text into Sublime and crank through it - its progressive regex, fast filtering, search&#x2F;replace are just coded into my finger DNA - It handles absolutely huge files that would cripple something like vscode - I understand why some people who have been using Textmate for 20+ years will never use another tool as their primary text-editor - once you&#x27;ve found &quot;the one&quot; - it almost becomes part of you.<p>Happy to buy every version of Sublime that ever gets released.
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steve_adams_86almost 4 years ago
I&#x27;m blown away by how snappy this is. It always is, but it&#x27;s even better now. This is really impressive work.<p>I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;m the target audience here. I just spent 30m trying to tune this for a TypeScript project, and I can&#x27;t seem to easily get eslint, prettier, and a few other tools working. I added the TypeScript language server package, but it doesn&#x27;t offer any of the effortless reference navigation and refactoring I&#x27;m used to.<p>Having said that, am I just missing something? Can Sublime be that kind of editor?<p>I think I&#x27;d love to give it a shot, but without these conveniences I&#x27;m feeling like I should stick with VS Code.
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bigyikesalmost 4 years ago
I was a Sublime user, then Atom, and now I’m a VS Code user. In 2021, what reasons are there to use Sublime over VS Code? Performance is the only one that comes to mind, but there are surely others... right?
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liquidisealmost 4 years ago
Happy to see Sublime still enjoying major version releases; i say this as a religious Textmate 2 user. Monocultures are rarely good for innovation and these projects monetizing in a sustainable way is a tide that raises all boats.<p>Also, a few comments here are asking versions of &quot;What does Sublime have that $MY_EDITOR doesn&#x27;t?&quot; For many the answer is simply &quot;experience&quot;. The idea of swapping off of TM2 for me is daunting because of the sheer number of keyboard shortcuts i&#x27;ve memorized. Most i don&#x27;t even know by heart but rather by hand position.<p>How feature-rich an editor is should be less important than how feature-complete your understanding&#x2F;usage is.
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wbondalmost 4 years ago
One of the features I am most excited about it tab multi-select. The simplicity of using it versus traditional pane management is really key, in my opinion.<p>Instead of having to manage groups and the files within them, tab selections are very fluid and low overhead. From the user experience perspective, I think they are as fundamental as multiple selections and Goto Anything are.<p>There are some docs at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sublimetext.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;tab_multi-select.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sublimetext.com&#x2F;docs&#x2F;tab_multi-select.html</a>. However, I recommend opening a folder and holding down ctrl&#x2F;cmd when selecting files from the side bar, Goto File, tab bar, Definitions popup, etc.<p>It integrates well with ctrl+tab, and the Definitions navigation flow is pretty user-friendly.
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mekkkkkkalmost 4 years ago
I recently discovered that a friend of mine was a big fan of Sublime. Said friend doesn&#x27;t do any coding, and isn&#x27;t at all technical, so I was curious. Turns out that it&#x27;s used a lot by their circle of colleagues in the editorial text world as a fast and approachable tool for bulk editing large, raw text files (as in manuscripts, books, manuals, etc.). Makes sense!
Andaithalmost 4 years ago
I love Sublime Text!<p>I don&#x27;t know how I&#x27;d work out just how much more productive I am because of ST, but it&#x27;d be interesting to see.<p>I&#x27;ve written 4 plugins so far. My most used two are:<p>I created a tool to take a tab-separated table(when you copy data out of excel) and convert it into an insert statement to a temp table, so I could copy from excel, run a keyboard shortcut, run the output in MSSQL and have a temp table with all the data available(Yes, I know MSSQL has an import function. This is quicker and easier).<p>Also, I switched to a mac and couldn&#x27;t find a nice HL7 Message Sender, so I wrote my own as a ST3 plugin and it took on a life of it&#x27;s own as a tool, with people in the company sending me feature requests and everything.<p>Thank you Sublime Devs!
dvcrnalmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve been using ST4 since the early dev builds and there is just no editor that makes me as productive as SublimeText. I tried everything under the sun from going with VIM&#x2F;nvim for the majority of the time, vscode, atom, intellij, emacs (spacemacs).<p>The plugin ecosystem picked back up when Sublime started pushing out dev builds. The editor improved, got much faster, the plugin APIs expanded. Right now with my ST4 setup, I&#x27;m in coding ZEN. It&#x27;s super snappy no matter what I throw at it, looks great, I know how to configure any keybinding I want, how to add new functionality with own plugins.<p>To me ST4 is a bit like VIM with customizations, except that it&#x27;s much faster than VIM.<p>Happy to see ST4 got released and hoping it will attract people to consider it again.<p>(SublimeMerge is also a really great product)
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signal11almost 4 years ago
I know people who love Sublime but are worried about it disappearing, or paying for an upgrade only to see development to stall.<p>It&#x27;s good to see that the Sublime team have responded to this with a licensing model that rewards them for releasing updates:<p>&gt; Sublime Text license keys are no longer tied to a single major version, instead they are now valid for all updates within 3 years of purchase. After that, you will still have full access to every version of Sublime Text released within the 3 year window, but newer builds will required a license upgrade.
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stephenralmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;d love to use a lighter (in terms of resources) editor like this, but after using IDEA (not for java - but it&#x27;s the single Jetbrains tool that supports all other language packs) the editor in this feels like comparing a car to a bicycle.<p>Sure, the bicycle starts off quicker, and you <i>feel</i> so much quicker.<p>But that&#x27;s where the benefits end, IMO. I just opened up a client project with this (that project is a mixture of php, sql, shell, and some client side browser code).<p>The symbol recognition compared to IDEA was pretty abysmal. Then I thought maybe I need to try the other way (i.e. find a usage of a symbol manually and then try to resolve it back to its definition).<p>That the find-in-files results are just another text view with paths in there is probably appealing to some people... me I&#x27;d rather you just let me open the file.
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O_H_Ealmost 4 years ago
&gt; Linux: Added proper support for Wayland<p>&gt; Linux: Touch screen events are now handled<p>&gt; Linux: Native file dialogs like those for KDE will be used when configured<p>On behalf of the small, loud minority that cares about these things, thank you very much
Cthulhu_almost 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve used ST (2 at the time) for a long time, back when IDE&#x27;s were hardly offering any help or support for web development (early 2010&#x27;s), since they couldn&#x27;t make heads or tails from JS applications.<p>I&#x27;ve done some other things in the meantime, some Java, some iOS development, etc. I tried Atom for a while, but it was just too sluggish. Then came VS Code, and for a good while that was the One. And to date, VS Code still gets frequent major updates and active development.<p>However, nowadays when I scan the changelog, 99% of it is just not relevant. They spent a ton of development time building a terminal client into it. Which I guess makes sense for the use case where it&#x27;s an in-browser editor, but personally I could have done without. Other things I don&#x27;t really use are debuggers, remote editing, etc. It&#x27;s still snappy enough, but I don&#x27;t know if it&#x27;s still relevant for me.<p>For the past year or so, I&#x27;ve been using intellij as my primary editor for everything; JS and TS support are now good enough, performance is good enough, and it&#x27;s a big help with Go, old PHP &#x2F; JS, etc code.<p>But I&#x27;m still nostalgic about ST from a decade ago, how fast and frequently I would just go `subl somefile` and it would be just There. Or the time I found a todo plugin that just worked fast and intuitively. Or the joys of cmd + p to open a file quickly, or fast global find &amp; replace (really useful if cmd+click on a function doesn&#x27;t navigate to said function).<p>I just hope it works well with existing system and languages, e.g. using the TS language server or Gopls. I don&#x27;t need it anymore as an all day working environment, but quick and dirty editing, yes please.<p>Anyway yeah I just bought a license.
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jfvinuezaalmost 4 years ago
How long does it take to open is not the meaningful metric; what matters is what happens afterwards. And yes, most Electron apps do get sluggish under load: Spotify is alright for adding the first 20 songs; then searching &gt;&gt; adding to playlist takes twice as long; then triple that, and then it&#x27;s downright unusable. &quot;But 90% of the time it&#x27;s fine...&quot;. Ok, but that didn&#x27;t used to be the case with mediamonkey on a Pentium III, or did it?<p>VS Code is perfectly fine if you&#x27;re being sensible: you&#x27;re editing a dozen files in a single project. It&#x27;s not not so fine if you&#x27;ve got 12 files open on three different projects, or you&#x27;re sharing your screen, or you&#x27;ve never closed the editor for a couple days. It&#x27;s being built with care, for sure, and yet you do feel the load, you do have to take resources into account, you have to be responsible. Do I need to Invest on higher end machine for the purpose of Editing Text Files? There are times on Emacs when I suddenly realize I&#x27;ve opened a hundred, 150 buffers, simply because I&#x27;ve never felt any load. And Emacs is the heavy one! Sublime was the first editor I used &quot;for real&quot;, and it was absolutely awesome. I switched to VS Code for all its shiny features and started to think that yes, it had its sluggish moments, but it simply saved too much time, it was way too efficient to leave. Well, it isn&#x27;t. Lightweight tools have an steeper curve, but they draw no boundaries for you, they don&#x27;t hold any usage agenda; they do, in a way, set you free.
andrewmcwattersalmost 4 years ago
I was a trial user for years back in the Sublime Text 2 and 3 days, then moved over to Atom when it was the hotness that was clearly Sublime Text inspired.<p>Atom was just never fast enough. I still use it to this day, but I recently purchased a Sublime Text 3 license <i>just</i> to use Sublime Text 4 while it was in development and now I use that alongside Atom.<p>It really is incredible how immature Atom was. You literally could not multiline search and replace. Incredible.
babaganoosh89almost 4 years ago
&gt; TypeScript, JSX and TSX Support<p>It doesn&#x27;t seem like Sublime ships with the Typescript language server by default, not sure if I&#x27;d call syntax highlighting as support.
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muststopmythsalmost 4 years ago
Anyone know of a good vi plugin for sublime ?<p>The last time I tried, all the plugins were significantly laggy and while nvim was functionally complete, it had this annoying behavior of switching out of insert mode if sublime lost focus. Apparently that&#x27;s by design too.<p>Sublime itself was super snappy though. unfortunately a good vi&#x2F;vim mode is a requirement for me.
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mknapper1almost 4 years ago
I really wish that Sublime would add an integrated terminal panel. None of the packages I’ve tried that do add a terminal view, work the way the way I want them to. It’s really the one feature that’s holding me back from even trying to switch away from VS Code.
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jacobkgalmost 4 years ago
Sublime Merge by the same folks is also fantastic. My favorite visual fit client
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O_H_Ealmost 4 years ago
&gt; `subl -` can now be used to read from stdin on all platforms<p>Cool, with how fast sublime startsup, I bet I will be using it in some pipelines with things like `vipe` (from moreutils). pasting things into sublime for quick text manipulation with regex replace and multiple carets is already a common occurrence in my workflow (things people use sed&#x2F;awk for, but this is the &quot;discoverable&quot; way I am used to).
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tadaimaalmost 4 years ago
For FreeBSD users who want to install Sublime Text 4 or Sublime Merge 2, you can find ports here:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;matias-pizarro&#x2F;freebsd-custom-ports&#x2F;tree&#x2F;master&#x2F;editors&#x2F;linux-sublime-text" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;matias-pizarro&#x2F;freebsd-custom-ports&#x2F;tree&#x2F;...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;matias-pizarro&#x2F;freebsd-custom-ports&#x2F;tree&#x2F;master&#x2F;editors&#x2F;linux-sublime-merge" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;matias-pizarro&#x2F;freebsd-custom-ports&#x2F;tree&#x2F;...</a><p>Hopefully soon, these will get added to the official ports repo and you can find them there:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freshports.org&#x2F;editors&#x2F;linux-sublime-text" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freshports.org&#x2F;editors&#x2F;linux-sublime-text</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freshports.org&#x2F;editors&#x2F;linux-sublime-merge" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freshports.org&#x2F;editors&#x2F;linux-sublime-merge</a>
zbrozekalmost 4 years ago
I am perfectly satisfied with my existing (and now expired) Sublime Text license. Yet I just bought an upgrade anyway because I&#x27;m so happy with the software and the developer that I simply wanted to support them through further development regardless.
dotdialmost 4 years ago
Very excited about this release!<p>I immediately took out my CC to purchase an upgrade when I realized the upgrade license is only 12.5% cheaper than a full license. I dunno, man, personally that felt a bit like a slap in the face. I don&#x27;t care about a few dollars more or less but I _felt_ underappreciated as a returning customer.
austinhutchalmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;m a Sublime devotee and have been anxiously awaiting this release and the support for Apple silicon. In my unsophisticated benchmarking, 100% worth the wait.<p>With the same projects open, ST4 is using about half the memory of rosetta ST3.<p>The time to index my projects went from about 5 minutes to under a minute.<p>Searching across large projects is instantaneous.
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babaganoosh89almost 4 years ago
Does anyone still choose Sublime over VS Code? I wonder what plugins I&#x27;d miss from a frontend dev perspective.
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gentleman11almost 4 years ago
I used to do battery life tests with different editors and sublime always win by a huge margin. This release claims both better performance, and also lower power use? How much less power?
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markogresakalmost 4 years ago
I saw a post about ST4 beta here on HN about a month ago. Decided to pay for the license to support the devs, as I was using just the evaluation version before I’ve started by programming career, and then I’ve switched to IDEs and went back to editor world with Atom. ST introduced me to the world of multiple cursors and easy to usr shortcuts. Atom ported that well, and it’s the first thing I set up in vscode (thanks to the atom keymap package).<p>Sadly, I agree with the post I saw on the other thread month or so ago: “too little, too late”.<p>I see a lot of mention of how ST is fast, and that’s impressive. But being fast does not make my job web dev easier. Vscode still delivers a superior developer experience, it’s easier for me to understand what’s going on under the hood and work with plugins. The speed is good enough, I work around the slower startup by having a window open at all times while working, so opening a new file is nearly instant.<p>I’m still glad that I’ve paid for the license. It makes me happy to see small apps that pack a punch and are fast, rather than going for the lazy way of using electron and eat up resources like crazy. I intend to give ST more time on my personal projects. But I just don’t feel as productive, and to me it matters when I’m using an editor almost 8h a day.
brainlessalmost 4 years ago
I used to use Sublime a couple years back, I do not remember having a paid license though. When I had a slower laptop (I ran Arch on an 8GB&#x2F;i5 4th Gen) I felt the need for a faster editor.<p>Today, I tried Sublime Text 4. It is definitely faster to launch and overall UI felt more responsive even in a couple clicks. But I could not see how to browse within the components&#x2F;files (Ctrl+Click usually) in the folder that I opened (TypeScript&#x2F;Deno project). VS Code does that without much effort. I could not see how to set debug breakpoints on the editor gutter (left).<p>I have an i5 9th Gen&#x2F;20GB laptop now and I would still like a faster editor&#x2F;IDE. I would be happy to take a license too. But getting debugger and project level browsing setup should be really easy and I feel VS Code does this, even if the overall UX is a bit slower. Plus plugins like Prettier, Git viewer and some other tooling.<p>I will spend some time but if anyone takes some time to figure these out, please share them. We need more editors so that we do not end up having one winner and then the winner starts becoming a slow monster...
agysalmost 4 years ago
I love ST.<p>As many stated here one of its strengths is speed: I “close” the editor when I’m done with it and I reopen it when needed: the boot time is &lt;1s; but the speed is not just loading, it’s all over the application. It really feels like a very sharp tool and I’m so used to it that I hardly can work with anything else because it would feel clunky.<p>Voilà, I just wanted to share my appreciation to the ST team.
FredPretalmost 4 years ago
I like how I started years ago by saying “Notepad sucks, let me try Notepad++ and Sublime Text”.<p>Now it’s almost an IDE, but still a great text editor!
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sirwittialmost 4 years ago
Even though I stopped using it as my primary development editor years ago I still use it every day for quickly writing notes and quickly editing arbitrary files.<p>I just checked, I bought my license in 2013 and since I really appreciate good software that support linux I just upgraded the license.<p>Thanks for creating a product that has turned out to be useful in many ways over the years!
antonyhalmost 4 years ago
I still miss the old MS-DOS edit.exe for it&#x27;s speed, utility, and availability. The faster the better, I can&#x27;t abide waiting for something that edits plain text.<p>I might give Sublime 4 a go, because sometimes I just really need a super speedy text change. It will be competing with Emacs for speed and functionality.
anthonyaykutalmost 4 years ago
Nothing eats through the huge json &amp; text files I have to check on a daily basis, nothing comes even close... while all the funky new kids have crashed and burned trying to process the data I have to ingest, ST has been the one and only trusted source. Bravo!
keltalmost 4 years ago
Interesting, they have a limited 10 days offer $99 USD to $80 USD. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sublimehq.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;text" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sublimehq.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;text</a><p>Was this always the case for new revisions?
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flaxtonalmost 4 years ago
I tried Sublime Text a few years ago, and it was OK, but I’m still sticking with Emacs which is burned into my muscle memory. I can use it with or without a GUI (I never use the menu) like in a remote SSH command line. The thing that could get me to move was if there was a Mac AND iPadOS version of Sublime Text.<p>Looking ahead, now with the M1 chip on the iPad Pro, it seems the next step for Apple would be to allow a lot more power in iPadOS, especially since it is a different OS than iOS on iPhone. We shall see. In the meantime, I plan to get the 2021 iPad Pro 12.9 to replace my 2018 12.9 and look forward to WWDC for any iPadOS announcements.
alberthalmost 4 years ago
It&#x27;s interesting to see how much more performant Sublime is on Windows &amp; Linux than it is on macOS.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sublimetext.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;articles&#x2F;hardware-accelerated-rendering" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sublimetext.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;articles&#x2F;hardware-accelerat...</a><p>On a 4k display, to render:<p>* Windows is 3-7ms<p>* Linux is 3-17ms<p>* macOS is 18-30ms &lt;-- 10x worse than Windows best<p>Anyone have ideas on the cause the poor performance of macOS relative to Windows or Linux?<p>Would also be interesting to know how this compares to VS Code, since a large reason why people choose Sublime over VS Code is due to performance.
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andigalmost 4 years ago
Too late, too little. Please don&#x27;t get me wrong- I&#x27;m saying this with the utmost respect of a long-time paying user. I used to love and recommend ST but then it stalled in development. Have replaced it with VSCode ~3 years ago.<p>The approach VSCode takes as platform with a clear development and plugin model is imho better suited and what gives VSCode the competitive advantage (apart from MS backing it of course).<p>What remains is the Sublime keyboard shortcuts that I‘m using even on VSCode.
jokoonalmost 4 years ago
I love this editor, but this detail annoys me:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;wu6ZfSa.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;wu6ZfSa.png</a><p>Folding code with curly braces doesn&#x27;t &quot;eat&quot; the brace. It&#x27;s indent-based, not syntax based. There is a 2 or 3 years old issue on their github, and they don&#x27;t plan to fix. A little annoying for a paying editor.<p>Maybe they fixed it and I did not look up new settings?
devoutsalsaalmost 4 years ago
Does Sublime have good support for Vue.js, specifically code formatting? I briefly looked a while back and all the plugins seemed ancient.
meksteralmost 4 years ago
Is there a good reason that I want to switch from IntelliJ if I&#x27;m satisfied with its functionality for web development except that I feel a lighter tool is certainly welcome.<p>Usually what lighter editors miss is auto completions on SQL fragments as it has no ability to access remote database to analyze the table structures, so they end up as plain text fragment.
ecmascriptalmost 4 years ago
I bought the license for sublime text 3 in which feels like forever ago but it turns out that it was only 2.5 years ago and I could use ST4 without having to purchase it.<p>Amazing. The product is amazing and I love the improvements. Before the language support for Elixir for example was kind of poor and it&#x27;s vastly improved now.<p>I feel very excited to run this new version onwards.
OhNoMyqueenalmost 4 years ago
I love their philosophy of ever improving performance and memory usage. Sublime is one of the last gem resisting Wirth&#x27;s Law.
ThePhysicistalmost 4 years ago
I changed back to Sublime after using VSCode because the UI is just significantly snappier. VSCode has a ton more features but personally I don&#x27;t think I need them, and the occasional lag when opening files or typing drove me mad. Sublime provides a perfect compromise between terminal-based editors like vim and fully-fledged IDEs, IMHO.
zfxfralmost 4 years ago
I love Sublime Text. Like many have said already it is indeed really performant. What I like the most is that I can open large files (say 600Mb files) and do stuff like regex search and replace with great performance. This would be pretty much impossible with Atom, or Bracket , or Vscode. I also found ST UI really simple and not bloated.
GekkePrutseralmost 4 years ago
I used it before, it&#x27;s very nice. Just wish they&#x27;d do a FreeBSD version, then I&#x27;d probably still use it.
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yerayalmost 4 years ago
If anyone is interested I wrote a small guide to set up Sublime Text 4 for Python development using Python LSP Server: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;yeray.dev&#x2F;python&#x2F;setting-up-sublime-text-4-for-python" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;yeray.dev&#x2F;python&#x2F;setting-up-sublime-text-4-for-pytho...</a>
roystonvasseyalmost 4 years ago
Sublime Text is my first tool to install on any new notebook. As someone who spends more time in meetings than in writing code, I almost purely use it as a note taking app and nothing’s come closer with just how easy it is to fire up a new note and get started! Thank you for building this.
omegotealmost 4 years ago
I hope they have (or have plans to) updated the docs for their plugin API. I&#x27;ve made some bucks building plugins for ST3 and the docs are... scarce. It&#x27;s a shame, because I prefer using Python for building plugins than JS or TS as in VSCode, but it was a PITA to find anything.
mraza007almost 4 years ago
I love how Sublime text is fast and handles large codebases pretty well in my opinion when compared to using VSCode.<p>I’m definitely not trying to hate VSCode i think it’s awesome too with all the community support but sometimes it just uses way too much ram making my system slow
ivandenysovalmost 4 years ago
I love Sublime Text and used it for the first 6 years of my career, but I completely switched to VS Code. It took me 2 attempts and here are some things that eventually made me stay with VS Code:<p>- better sidebar: drag &amp; drop, quick rename, copy&#x2F;paste out of the box<p>- better project search: faster, opens in sidebar by default or you can open it in an editor tab. sidebar search results refresh automatically when you delete search occurrences from files. &#x27;editor tab search results&#x27; have syntax highlighting and you can have multiple search tabs open simultaneously<p>- more usable extension store. I don&#x27;t need to go on the web to research the best editor extension for given language&#x2F;technology<p>- it is open source<p>- it has a UI for settings
lasagnaphilalmost 4 years ago
Anyone with experience on Sublime Text with LSP support for C++? I&#x27;m currently using CLion but am considering switching to ST if things like autocomplete&#x2F;go-to-definition&#x2F;simple refactoring works for C++&#x2F;CMake without much hassle.
sim_card_mapalmost 4 years ago
Wait, older versions of ST were NOT rendered by GPU?
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mokkolalmost 4 years ago
Had to run the following command to make &quot;press and hold keys to repeat&quot; work. (for example holding down the e key will create eeeeeeeeeeeeeee, instead of an option menu to choose eêíë)<p>defaults write com.sublimetext.4 ApplePressAndHoldEnabled -bool false
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jpe90almost 4 years ago
Does all of the documentation for sublime text 3 also apply to 4? Is 4 compatible with plugins for 3? Sorry if that&#x27;s a dumb question, I haven&#x27;t used sublime text in forever. Hoping to try it out on a flutter project.
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ryanmcbridealmost 4 years ago
Sublime Text is the only editor I use outside of vim. It&#x27;s worth every penny.
xvilkaalmost 4 years ago
Sublime is blazingly fast for all its features. I hope there will be similar UI for NeoVim in the near future (no Electron please). There is OniVim, but it dropped the NeoVim as an engine, which is quite sad.
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cheeaunalmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve been using ST4 (beta) last few weeks ago, trying to move away from VS Code. I used to use ST2&#x2F;3 before moving to Atom and then VS Code.<p>My experience so far:<p>- Feels so much faster (as expected, but <i>still</i> faster than VS Code - I&#x27;m on M1 MBA)<p>- Settings are still in JSON instead of GUI<p>- There&#x27;s no scrollbar markers [1]<p>- I was struggling set up the system-based light&#x2F;dark mode color scheme and theme, wished that it was easier.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;sublimehq&#x2F;sublime_text&#x2F;issues&#x2F;2072" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;sublimehq&#x2F;sublime_text&#x2F;issues&#x2F;2072</a>
stephc_int13almost 4 years ago
Sublime Text is my favorite tool by a long shot, even if I have to admit that I am impressed by the quality of VSCode,<p>I came back to ST a few months ago when I experienced weird slowdowns on VSCode.<p>I would love to see an integrated terminal.
mihir1991almost 4 years ago
This is my most used software. I loved it.
NetOpWibbyalmost 4 years ago
I’m just glad the default theme doesn’t suck anymore. And it respects Dark Mode!<p>Neat.
spegalmost 4 years ago
Perfect timing. I just ended a months long voyage of VIM and headed back to ST, new version? Bonus!<p>I also tried VS Code (again) and it still isn’t as snappy as ST. I don’t get the hype.
CraftThatBlockalmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;m a IntelliJ&#x2F;WebStorm user (I use IntelliJ but for mostly JS&#x2F;TS&#x2F;X), what&#x27;s the level of support for these tools vs VS Code for example?
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haik90almost 4 years ago
Somehow I enjoy read the changelog, straight to the point.
nebulonalmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;ve upgraded and it was super smooth. Thanks for that! One question remains, how can one disable the title bar on gnome to preserve space?
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BrandoElFollitoalmost 4 years ago
I am a home, amateur developer and I was always curious why developers would choose an editor instead of an IDE.<p>When I started to code 25 years ago, there was no choice but as soon as I discovered IDEs I never looked back.<p>Startup speed may be an issue, but it is I believe insignificant for a coding session (of a few hours). Key bindings are portable. IDEs bring code completion, integrated debugging etc.<p>I am really curious.
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sepisoadalmost 4 years ago
I am huge sublime text fan, and have updated my license, one thing that I would like to see is an official and better vim emulation extension, I know there is vintage package but it is far from being useful, and then there are other vim emulation packages that are not making proper use of sublime powers, so I would like to see a better and newer vintage package
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wnevetsalmost 4 years ago
VSCode seems to have a larger and healthier plugin ecosystem but I still find sublime text so much nicer to use.
qwerty456127almost 4 years ago
Does it integrate with the OS text input facilities already? The last time I checked Sublime didn&#x27;t support Windows 10 native word hints, MacOS long-press accented letter input and didn&#x27;t accept keyboard shortcuts during using non-latin keyboard layout on Linux.<p>Great job anyway, Sublime is really cool.
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nhoughtoalmost 4 years ago
I still need to upgrade from version 2, have been ignoring the update now prompts for a while now it seems!
sbst32almost 4 years ago
The cursor got extremely big (high) and it really bugs me. I don&#x27;t see a way to change that (yet).<p>Quick screenshot for comparison: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;o5v8iVx" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;a&#x2F;o5v8iVx</a>
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bevacquaalmost 4 years ago
Awesome. Sublime is my favorite editor by far. Performance, multiple cursors, and syntax highlighting is all I need<p>Couple questions:<p>1. I already have JSX and TypeScript plugins installed. Should I remove those?<p>2. When will there be a `~&#x2F;Library&#x2F;Sublime Text 4&#x2F;` directory now?
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mszczalmost 4 years ago
Is there any way to get it to render at over 60Hz? I&#x27;ve got a high refresh rate monitor but Sublime still renders in 60Hz. I&#x27;ve enabled the hardware_acceleration and it shows up in the console but still no dice.
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ElectronBadgeralmost 4 years ago
This is my go-to editor for R, MATLAB, Python, Julia and Markdown notes. Fabulous!
thelastidiotalmost 4 years ago
Unfortunately, ny company won&#x27;t let us install software thats not signed.
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tomcooksalmost 4 years ago
I have never been that convinced to switch from vim to a closed source text editor as when I tried ST on Windows.<p>It has a glorious interface and defaults that give your fingers wings. And maybe one day GPL license, who knows?
rpcworkalmost 4 years ago
Sublime sustained me for years, until I switched to VScode for complaince .. FML.<p>Go sublime!
lewisfludealmost 4 years ago
Does anyone here have any thoughts on how Sublime Text 4 compare&#x27;s to Panic&#x27;s Nova?<p>I used to be fully on the native editor train, but I love VSCode so much, it&#x27;s difficult to justify switching back.
PascLeRascalmost 4 years ago
What&#x27;s the best way to have both Sublime 3 and 4 on my Mac? Would it be to rename 3 in ~&#x2F;Applications and its subl to subl3, then download 4 and let it run as-is?
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pablodevalmost 4 years ago
Am I the only one who doesn&#x27;t like the layout? I really liked Sublime 3, I use it on a daily basis but something doesn&#x27;t look right on this Sublime 4 :( idk
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thejoshalmost 4 years ago
After having sublime have the same theme for years, changing the theme in v4 is very jarring. Is it possible to go back to the same theme that comes OOTB in v3?
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dgavrilovalmost 4 years ago
Sublime Text 3 - 10.9 MB RAM<p>Sublime Text 4 - 109.8 MB RAM<p>Windows 10 x64
0xhhalmost 4 years ago
just downloaded it. looks awesome!!!
jaimex2almost 4 years ago
I kind of completely forgot about Sublime and Atom after VS Code came out.
hairofadogalmost 4 years ago
My text editor journey:<p>* Dreamweaver<p>* PSPad<p>* TextMate<p>* Try &amp; Fail with Coda<p>* Sublime Text<p>* Try &amp; Fail with Atom, BBEdit<p>* VScode<p>* Try &amp; fail with Nova
pablodevalmost 4 years ago
Am i the only one who doesn&#x27;t like it ? :(
ampdepolymerasealmost 4 years ago
Does Sublime Text 4 have support for WSL2?
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greymanalmost 4 years ago
The core question is - is this better than VSCode AS AN EDITOR? In recent months, I had the feeling VSCode just surpassed it in almost every regard.
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user-the-namealmost 4 years ago
Does it have a preferences UI yet?
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PieUseralmost 4 years ago
I&#x27;d buy it if it weren&#x27;t closed source...
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_throwawayawayalmost 4 years ago
any happy clojure ST4 users?
madisalmost 4 years ago
Vim
happynachoalmost 4 years ago
It&#x27;s been 84 years...
waheooalmost 4 years ago
I feel like they fumbled the ball a bit. Vscode was flailing for a long time before I finally switched away from sublime text. Sublime text had ample time to move the needle on the problems they had for years and ignored.<p>I don&#x27;t think I could go back at this point, there isn&#x27;t any real drawbacks staying with vscode and it&#x27;s more likely to work with my companies processes.
Shadonototroalmost 4 years ago
- no GUI for settings<p>- no proper file swap&#x2F;search without having a file preview<p>- still no LSP built-in<p>- still no open source (want to edit something like the preview file issue, then you are out of luck and must wait for an update)<p>- still no debugger built-in<p>- still no terminal built-in<p>It&#x27;s paid and has many issues that doesn&#x27;t exist in open-source alternatives..<p>It&#x27;s sad because i used to love ST, now it is VERY hard to recommend it
zainalmatalmost 4 years ago
Mixcel
101001001001almost 4 years ago
This is the future of software even though sublime text isn’t new. People need to understand that the incentive structure surrounding the development and maintenance of software is as much a part of the software as the code is. Open source doesn’t work for the vast number of cases. When Linus dies, the only real example of a successful open source software project will die with him. Making things free doesn’t make you virtuous.
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